(10-30-2011, 11:05 PM)ExtremeDude2 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2011, 10:35 PM)DacoTaco Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2011, 10:18 PM)ExtremeDude2 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2011, 06:45 PM)DacoTaco Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2011, 07:24 AM)ExtremeDude2 Wrote: [ -> ]*thinks daco should get a new computer*
euh...why?
It's-a P4 :p
no, its a C2D e7500. the old picture is there for old times sake. check the rig under it
Oh :p well I still think you shold get a new one it is 1.6 GHz 
learn how dual cores work before saying anything.
1.6Ghz dual core = 3Ghz cpu (no, a 3ghz cpu does not mean 2x3ghz. it means 3ghz in total and 1,5Ghz per core)
EDIT : also, i looked up the shit if a GF9500GT and compared it to my 8800 GS
god, i thought the 9500GT was more powerfull... its 1/3th the power of mine...while it has the same clock speeds XD
Daco, there is no clock per core, you can't simply add them together....
(10-31-2011, 02:44 AM)Anti-Ultimate Wrote: [ -> ]Daco, there is no clock per core, you can't simply add them together....
This ^^ so yeah I think your the one who need to learn how they work
@Daco
Well there isn't much Physx games out there, But they never stopped being made, this year we got Alice Madness Returns and Batman Arkham City which wasn't released yet..
In 2009 there was Mafia 2 and Batman Arkham Asylum and in 2008 Mirror's Edge, and those are just the ones I can remember right now ^^
@NaturalViolence
I'm not sure if I got what you're saying, I did some search here I got those prices (converted to dollars):
GTS 450 1GB GDDR5 ~ $210,50
GTX 460 1GB GDDR5 ~ $259,40
GTX 560 1GB GDDR5 ~ $301,92
Whoa, this seems a lot better when written in dollar
Seriously, its easier to see the proportion between prices. This is all Cards from good brands, while looking for the best prices.
Looking at this now I'm more tempted to get the 460, as 560 is a little too much beyond what I plan to spend on this.
Also, seems my initial idea of price about gts 450 was wrong, I found it much more cheaper than before with a proper search
Wow those cards are $50 less here.
(10-31-2011, 02:44 AM)Anti-Ultimate Wrote: [ -> ]Daco, there is no clock per core, you can't simply add them together....
youre a believer of a dual core going 3ghz meaning each core is going 3ghz giving you a so called 6ghz cpu?
cause that makes less sense and is far from true.
and either way how you look at it, this IS a 3ghz cpu and if cpuz says core1 is doing 1,6Ghz i'd say it has a chance to be right
i must say the whole clock speed thing on cpu's has a few big gaps that contradict itself in my mind but ok
BUT BACK TO SUBJECT OF GPU CHANGE
i wouldn't give the money in the world for a 5xx or 4xx gpu of nvidia seeing how well my 8800 GS is doing with games of 2011...
(10-31-2011, 04:48 AM)ExtremeDude2 Wrote: [ -> ]Wow those cards are $50 less here.
And that's why I hate this fucking government/country.
Also why I bought a Phenom II not a SandyBridge.
Quote:youre a believer of a dual core going 3ghz meaning each core is going 3ghz giving you a so called 6ghz cpu?
cause that makes less sense and is far from true.
It is untrue. And so is this:
Quote:1.6Ghz dual core = 3Ghz cpu (no, a 3ghz cpu does not mean 2x3ghz. it means 3ghz in total and 1,5Ghz per core)
Anti-Ultimate has is right:
Quote:Daco, there is no clock per core, you can't simply add them together....
You can't add the clock rates together, that makes no sense. If your core clock rate is 3GHz all of the cores are running at 3GHz.
two cores @ 3.0GHz does not equal 6.0GHz. It simply means the clock signal has a frequency of 3GHz and goes through two cores. Clock rate is not speed, it's frequency.
In AMD cpus you can adjust the frequency of individual cores since they run off of separate multipliers. A 3.2GHz phenom II cpu will show all 4 cores running at 3.2GHz at stock if you open AMD overdrive or the bios setup.
Quote:and either way how you look at it, this IS a 3ghz cpu and if cpuz says core1 is doing 1,6Ghz i'd say it has a chance to be right
It says 1.6GHz because it's running at 1.6GHz. The core clock signal runs off of a multiplier that the FSB clock signal passes through. Core 2 CPUs throttle the multiplier down when they are not under heavy load. FSB is 266 MHz real 1066 MT/s effective transfer rate (since the FSB is quad pumped). The multiplier is set to 11x at P-state 0 (the highest P-state) which gives it a core clock rate of 2.93GHz. At the lowest P-state the multiplier is 6x which gives it a clock rate of 1.6GHz.
If you don't believe me leave CPU-Z open and run something that full loads your cpu in the background, you'll see the clock rate jump to full speed (2.93GHz for your cpu).
Quote:i wouldn't give the money in the world for a 5xx or 4xx gpu of nvidia seeing how well my 8800 GS is doing with games of 2011...
What confuses me is that fact that I didn't see anyone recommending that you upgrade your graphics card before you posted about it, so to me it seemed to come out of left field.
Quote:god, i thought the 9500GT was more powerfull... its 1/3th the power of mine...while it has the same clock speeds XD
You're comparing a high end gpu from the 8 series against a low end gpu from the 9 series, of course it will be faster. Your card has three times as many stream processors for example. Most of the 9 series are rebranded 8 series cards anyways. The 9500GT was designed to replace the 8600 GTS.
Since you deal with electronics on a regular basis I must say I am STUNNED that you don't seem to know any of this.
Quote:@NaturalViolence
I'm not sure if I got what you're saying, I did some search here I got those prices (converted to dollars):
GTS 450 1GB GDDR5 ~ $210,50
GTX 460 1GB GDDR5 ~ $259,40
GTX 560 1GB GDDR5 ~ $301,92
Whoa, this seems a lot better when written in dollar Tongue Seriously, its easier to see the proportion between prices. This is all Cards from good brands, while looking for the best prices.
Looking at this now I'm more tempted to get the 460, as 560 is a little too much beyond what I plan to spend on this.
Also, seems my initial idea of price about gts 450 was wrong, I found it much more cheaper than before with a proper search Tongue
As I said the GTX 560 is 50% more in price but performs twice as high as the GTS 450, it's the best bang per buck out of those three choices.
NV, i dont deal with electronics on regular basis. its my hobby and i only know basics of them, i learn as i go. i ALSO said i dont know the details of how dual cores run their speeds and shit. and i didn't know the C2D's clocked on lower speed when not under heavy load; makes sense now that you think about it (tho imo cpu-z should at least report the full clock speed when making the validation)... keep in mind i got stuck in the P4 era for a looooong time and didn't bother looking into the very small details of DC cpu's except that they ran multiple threads at the same time if the code allowed it without intervening with itself and what HT does etc
and i think you all got confused by my first post in this topic
with he i meant runo. im fine with my 8800GS thank you XD
now sadly my 8600GTS died some time ago (which got replaced by this card) so i dont know how that card would run games now that i have the C2D but at first i didn't notice any difference when i upgraded (possibly because the gpu was not the bottleneck in any games i was playing but rather the P4. so no matter what i would have used it would have stayed the same).
and are you blind nv? i said i THOUGHT the 9500GT was more powerful, hence why i was comparing it to mine; as i thought it was near the same. guess its far from it
Seriously, why is there no thank-o-mat here ?
(Or something like that, but not reputation
)