You don't even need to OC, it's not needed. You could do it if you need the extra -push- to get more stable performance for example.
If gaming is your top priority, you can even get away with the Phenom II X4 9xx CPU's.
The 955 even does better than the i3 2100 in gaming.
In 5-7 years, the current CPU's will be obsolete, but not useless.
I know you said the price is set in stone, but think about it one more time. (You could just in the cash, mow some lawns, and in a few months you'll be able to get a much better PC
)
With heat, do you mean you want to purchase aftermarket CPU/GPU coolers?
If so... you don't need to, if you're not going to OC. The stock coolers should be good enough, if you have a good ventilated case that is. Dont spend money in this. You can spend them elsewhere (CPU, GPU for example).
What do you mean with 'last-ability'? You mean durability? Don't worry about that, unless you OC, you should be fine.
If you're really going for a $500 build, the suggestions that
NaturalViolence made are probably your best bet.
(09-21-2011, 01:12 PM)werewolfyman Wrote: [ -> ]By the time I start considering overclocking, (5-7 years.) the i5 2500k will be near obsolete.Overclocking I'll do when I can afford to ignore warranties and melt CPU's and motherboards into slag.
Have a lovely day!
OH LOOK IT'S THAT POST AGAIN -_-'
Overclocking won't do anything to your computer unless you screw up badly.
Quote:Overclocking I'll do when I can afford to ignore warranties and melt CPU's and motherboards into slag.
Sigh.....another person with no knowledge of OCing that is too afraid to try it yet confident enough to say they have an opinion on it.
That's like saying "I'm afraid to study science because bad people have used science before therefore science is bad" it just makes no sense to anybody who has actually done it.
If gaming is your priority then focus on the video card. But it would be best in the long run to focus on the cpu and save up money sometime IN THE FUTURE to upgrade the video card, exactly as RRoD said.
(09-22-2011, 04:36 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:Overclocking I'll do when I can afford to ignore warranties and melt CPU's and motherboards into slag.
Sigh.....another person with no knowledge of OCing that is too afraid to try it yet confident enough to say they have an opinion on it.
That's like saying "I'm afraid to study science because bad people have used science before therefore science is bad" it just makes no sense to anybody who has actually done it.
If gaming is your priority then focus on the video card. But it would be best in the long run to focus on the cpu and save up money sometime IN THE FUTURE to upgrade the video card, exactly as RRoD said.
It's not that I'm afraid of overclocking- it's just that I'm afraid of violating my warranty, and then being unable to replace the parts.
And if I get the GT 440, what could it do graphics wise?
Okay, I could do the asus z68 and an i5 2500k, but that leaves me with $40 for a video card inferior to the 2500ks' integrated!
So should I go with that or get the h61? (Which would give me a gt 440 or equivalent $80-90 card.)
(09-22-2011, 06:49 AM)werewolfyman Wrote: [ -> ] (09-22-2011, 04:36 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:Overclocking I'll do when I can afford to ignore warranties and melt CPU's and motherboards into slag.
Sigh.....another person with no knowledge of OCing that is too afraid to try it yet confident enough to say they have an opinion on it.
That's like saying "I'm afraid to study science because bad people have used science before therefore science is bad" it just makes no sense to anybody who has actually done it.
If gaming is your priority then focus on the video card. But it would be best in the long run to focus on the cpu and save up money sometime IN THE FUTURE to upgrade the video card, exactly as RRoD said.
It's not that I'm afraid of overclocking- it's just that I'm afraid of violating my warranty, and then being unable to replace the parts.
And if I get the GT 440, what could it do graphics wise?
Okay, I could do the asus z68 and an i5 2500k, but that leaves me with $40 for a video card inferior to the 2500ks' integrated!
So should I go with that or get the h61? (Which would give me a gt 440 or equivalent $80-90 card.)
Hmm,good point.Can you post you entire build again?Let's see if we can tweak it enough so you can fit a 2500k,P67/Z68 board and a decent card.
Savings Total Price
1
LITE-ON 24X DVD Writer Black SATA Model iHAS-324-98B
$20.99
1
EVGA 01G-P3-1371-AR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) FPB EE 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
$169.99
1
Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
-$25.00 Instant
$79.99
$54.99
1
Tuniq TX-2 Cooling Thermal Compound
$6.99
1
CORSAIR XMS 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model CMX4GX3M1A1333C9
$25.99
1
ASUS P8H61-M LE/CSM (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
-$5.00 Instant
$74.99
$69.99
1
Intel Core i3-2105 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I32105
$134.99
Subtotal: $483.93
Shipping: $10.98
Grand Total: $494.90
Max I can do is $515 w/shipping.
Oh, and no rebates.
(09-22-2011, 08:10 AM)werewolfyman Wrote: [ -> ]Savings Total Price
1
LITE-ON 24X DVD Writer Black SATA Model iHAS-324-98B
$20.99
1
EVGA 01G-P3-1371-AR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) FPB EE 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
$169.99
1
Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
-$25.00 Instant
$79.99
$54.99
1
Tuniq TX-2 Cooling Thermal Compound
$6.99
1
CORSAIR XMS 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model CMX4GX3M1A1333C9
$25.99
1
ASUS P8H61-M LE/CSM (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
-$5.00 Instant
$74.99
$69.99
1
Intel Core i3-2105 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I32105
$134.99
Subtotal: $483.93
Shipping: $10.98
Grand Total: $494.90
Max I can do is $515 w/shipping.
Oh, and no rebates.
Hmm...
With that budget,no 2500/2500k,that's for sure.If i were you i would save up for it.You won't regret it.
Also,why get thermal compound if you're not getting a cooler?
1. This is a Christmas budget, provided by my mother(Yes I know I'm spoiled.>_<) So if I do save up, it'll be post-2011.
2. Stock thermal pads/pastes generally tend to be awful.
As for that, I probably will start saving up for an i5 2500 at some point down the road.
The main reason my mum decided this was okay was because she realized that my computer is outdated...
and it's pretty sad when even she can see that.
Hell, I could go with a pentium D and still legitimately call it a sizable jump.
But, that would be wasting money.
So, an i3? There is no metaphor grand enough to describe the leap.
I've always been a niche gamer anyway.
I don't play MOST mainstream games because they bore me.
Nearly everything these days is the same game with different coats of paint. LEAD PAINT.
If this can run SPORE at 1080p with 8x AA, them I'm golden.
(Also, Pokemon, Budokai Tenkaichi, Sonic Adventure, etc, all of which I would DIE to play in 1080p, AA or not.)
(And I do own all of the above listed.)
Games that I legally own, and plan to try and rip...
Gamecube/Wii:
(Pokemon XD)
(Pokemon Battle Revolution)
(Sonic Adventure 2 Battle)
(Warioware Sooth Moves)
(Counter Force, yes really.)
(Harvey Birdman.)
(Super Smash Bros brawl/ Melee)
(Budokai Tenkaichi 3)
PS2
(Budokai 1, 2, 3, Infinite World)
(Budokai Tenkaichi 1, 2 ,3, Yes I have 3 on both consoles.)
(Soul Calibur 2)
You see, I got the Budokai's from a 6-in-1 Gamestop bundle. (Omitting infinite world as it wasn't released at the time.) $50, great deal.
(Sucks that all of them were used.)
And that's about it.
Last time I checked, my specs should be MORE then enough for all of these.
Wii looks terrible on an HDTV, and PS2's laser is broken.
(09-22-2011, 06:49 AM)werewolfyman Wrote: [ -> ] (09-22-2011, 04:36 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:Overclocking I'll do when I can afford to ignore warranties and melt CPU's and motherboards into slag.
Sigh.....another person with no knowledge of OCing that is too afraid to try it yet confident enough to say they have an opinion on it.
That's like saying "I'm afraid to study science because bad people have used science before therefore science is bad" it just makes no sense to anybody who has actually done it.
If gaming is your priority then focus on the video card. But it would be best in the long run to focus on the cpu and save up money sometime IN THE FUTURE to upgrade the video card, exactly as RRoD said.
It's not that I'm afraid of overclocking- it's just that I'm afraid of violating my warranty, and then being unable to replace the parts.
And if I get the GT 440, what could it do graphics wise?
Okay, I could do the asus z68 and an i5 2500k, but that leaves me with $40 for a video card inferior to the 2500ks' integrated!
So should I go with that or get the h61? (Which would give me a gt 440 or equivalent $80-90 card.)
Intel made those K processor OCable , so there wont be a problem with your warranty , because they make you pay more for the K processors ability to overclock .
There would be no point for them to make an OCable CPU , and pretend they're not aware that you are going to OC it ! damn you kids !
Just stay in the Vcore Limitations stated by Intel (1.35V i guess) but you can go more far , the rest depends on your GUTS !
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1607718
Cheers
(09-22-2011, 02:57 PM)werewolfyman Wrote: [ -> ]2. Stock thermal pads/pastes generally tend to be awful.
The paste is pre-applied on the stock cooler.