Quote:Would it be worth my time?
Yes.
And about the server. If you are not concerned about horsepower at all you should really go for a brazos platform. You have to look at the total system cost, not just the cpu. Sandy bridge celeron cpus might be cheap but you still need an LGA 1155 motherboard.
Then again none of this stuff will be available in a year, it will all be replaced by newer hardware. Ion 3 comes out next year with a 3rd generation atom cpu and 2nd generation ion gpu. AMD is replacing brazos with deccan next year. Intel will replace sandy bridge celeron with ivy bridge celeron.
(11-16-2011, 11:22 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:Would it be worth my time?
Yes.
And about the server. If you are not concerned about horsepower at all you should really go for a brazos platform. You have to look at the total system cost, not just the cpu. Sandy bridge celeron cpus might be cheap but you still need an LGA 1155 motherboard.
Then again none of this stuff will be available in a year, it will all be replaced by newer hardware. Ion 3 comes out next year with a 3rd generation atom cpu and 2nd generation ion gpu. AMD is replacing brazos with deccan next year. Intel will replace sandy bridge celeron with ivy bridge celeron.
From what I've read Ivy Bridge will only be a 6 % improvement per clock.
The integrated GPU is what everyone's excited about.
Unless I've heard wrong?
I though gtx 550 was only a 25% improvement.
Quote:From what I've read Ivy Bridge will only be a 6 % improvement per clock.
From what I've read it's expected to be 10-15% higher in IPC and 20% higher in overall performance. Plus it supports pci-e 3.0, usb 3.0, and sata 3.0 natively. It consumes less power and produces less heat (therefore better overclocking). It has faster memory controllers and of course the new IGP which is expected to perform 60% better than sandy bridges IGP and support dx11.1, opencl 1.1, and openGL 3.1, as well as second generation quicksync and quad HD output resolutions.
My point is nothing stays the same in this industry for an entire year.
Quote:I though gtx 550 was only a 25% improvement.
It is. So why not spend the extra $5-10?
Quote:I though gtx 550 was only a 25% improvement.
It is. So why not spend the extra $5-10?
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Because I would notice little difference?
Can it do 1.5x + 9x SSAA?
Honestly, I don't need Ivy bridge.
I think the i5 2300 will keep me happy for a loooong time.
Quote:Honestly, I don't need Ivy bridge.
I think the i5 2300 will keep me happy for a loooong time.
I never suggested you should wait and use it in your main rig. You asked about the improvements in ivy bridge so I answered. And like I said if you plan on using a celeron cpu when you build your server in a year or two sandy bridge won't be widely available anymore.
Quote:Because I would notice little difference?
Can it do 1.5x + 9x SSAA?
In PC games you will definitely notice the difference, with dolphin not so much. It might be able to do 1.5x IR + 9xSSAA in some games but probably not the heavier games. I would advise against using 9xSSAA though, just use 4x IR and FXAA.
Nah. Server would be too hard to host anyway.
What are the "heavier" games?
I just found this review of the ASUS gtx 550 ti.
4 out of 5 eggsDisappointed in this purchase,
Pros: Good price, supports Dx11
Cons: It was only a very slight upgrade from my 9800GTX+
I figured its high in the 5 series, so i figured it would be an awesome card. Not the case. Benchmarks on this thing are downright sad. But I should have done more research on this before buy it, so it is also my fault too for getting a not so good card.
The overclock software that came with it, completely messed up how it ran, so I had to uninstall it. I might have been doing something wrong, but the software should have been smart enough for me to just push a button to turn on the OC mode and work. I dunno, but I turned it on, tried to play WoW and BF3 and I was getting 4 Fps.
Other Thoughts: Nvidia...Stop naming your cards with higher numbers when they aren't even as good as previous cards you made.
This is what I mean. One would think that the GTX 550 Ti would be better than the GTX 460. (550>460 is it not?) Not the case here. BUT the GTX 570-590 are wayyyy better than the 460. Get your numbering system right.
Is this actually true, or is this person full of bull?
Quote:Cons: It was only a very slight upgrade from my 9800GTX+
I figured its high in the 5 series, so i figured it would be an awesome card. Not the case. Benchmarks on this thing are downright sad. But I should have done more research on this before buy it, so it is also my fault too for getting a not so good card.
So he's an idiot, what's new?
Seriously I remember reading a review on newegg when the 9600gt came out from someone complaining that they had upgraded from an 8800gt and it was slower. A facepalm moment immediately followed.
A GTX 550 TI is faster than a GTS 250 but not by that much. Let me give you a quick rundown of where recent nvidia cards fall in order from fastest to slowest:
GTX 590 - fastest card in the 500 series
GTX 580
GTX 570
GTX 480 - fastest card in the 400 series
GTX 295 - fastest card in the 200 series
GTX 560 TI / GTX 470
GTX 560
GTX 285
GTX 280
GTX 460 1GB edition
GTX 460 / GTX 275 / 9800 GX2 - fastest card in the 9 series
GTX 465
GTX 460 SE
GTX 550 TI / GTX 260 C216
GTX 260 C192
GTS 450 / GTS 250 / 9800 GTX+ / 8800 ultra - fastest card in the 8 series
9800 GTX / 8800GTX
8800 GTS G92
9800 GT / 8800 GT
GT 440 / 8800 GS
8800 GTS 640MB
8800 GTS 320MB
GT 430 / GT 240 / 9600 GT
9600 GSO
GT 220
9500 GT
8600 GTS / sandy bridge HD 3000 - fastest intel IGP, the mobile (laptop) versions are slower
GT 520 / 8600 GT / xbox360 / PS3 - current generation of video game consoles
9400 GT / sandy bridge HD 2000 / sandy bridge HD
G 210
8500 GT
8400 GS
Fantastic.
So the card should last a while?
Seriously, though.
What are these "heavier" games you keep telling me about?
It's just a broad term I use to describe the fact that some games are much easier to emulate (much less demanding) than others. Some games are particularly demanding compared to most, I call those "heavy games". The ones that I have personally used (although I am sure that there are many more out there) are SMG, SMG2, metroid prime, metroid prime 2, metroid prime 3, and star fox adventures.
(11-16-2011, 03:08 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]It's just a broad term I use to describe the fact that some games are much easier to emulate (much less demanding) than others. Some games are particularly demanding compared to most, I call those "heavy games". The ones that I have personally used (although I am sure that there are many more out there) are SMG, SMG2, metroid prime, metroid prime 2, metroid prime 3, and star fox adventures.
Why do I notice no difference with FXAA?
(On my Dad's compy.)