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Quote:Does having 4 cores make software recording have more resources available? (IE: is it faster on quads?)

What is "software recording"? Are you referring to screen capture and video recording software?

Yes.


Quote:As a side note, I noticed that XFX's cards' quality seems to be poor,

And how exactly did you reach that conclusion may I ask?

All of the negative reviews.



Still love all this help.
Stupidest question ever...

But is this ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131781

Any different from this?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131781

Because the first one's cheaper and has 2 PS/2 slots.Big Grin
Quote:What is "software recording"? Are you referring to screen capture and video recording software?

Yes.

Like most other software fraps and most other screen recording software is single threaded. When paired with a single threaded game a dual core cpu is enough but if you're running fraps with a multithreaded game having a quad core cpu may help (if the game is heavily loading both cores there isn't much left for fraps, having additional cores allows fraps to run on its own core).

Quote:And how exactly did you reach that conclusion may I ask?

All of the negative reviews.

There hardware quality has declined a bit since they made the switch from nvidia to amd. They still have a lot of high rated cards though and there customer support and warranty are second to none.

Of course as I said there are MANY other great brands for you to choose from. Please don't feel like you have to find the one and only "best" brand to buy from because you won't. The hardware quality difference between most of the brands is pretty insignificant.

Quote:Stupidest question ever...

But is this ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6813131781

Any different from this?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6813131781

Because the first one's cheaper and has 2 PS/2 slots.Big Grin

You posting the exact same link twice.

Also PS/2 is a port not a slot. Did you mean to say PCI slot?
Quote:Stupidest question ever...

But is this ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6813131781

Any different from this?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6813131781

Because the first one's cheaper and has 2 PS/2 slots.Big Grin


Oops.

I meant this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131787

and this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131724

No, I did mean PS/2 port.
Differences:

LX
-1 PCI-e x16 and 3 PCI-e x1 ports
-2 PS/2 ports
-COM and LPT ports
-D-sub/VGA video only, single monitor only on IGP
-4 USB ports
-Surge protection built in, the other mobo likely has it also, the one thing newegg isn't too good with is making sure to list all of the motherboard features, in fact they rarely get it 100% right

LE/CSM
-1 PCI-e x16, 2 PCI-e x1, and 1 PCI port
-1 PS/2 port
-No COM or LPT ports
-D-Sub/VGA and DVI video ports, supports dual monitor with IGP
-6 USB ports
-GPU boost feature, 6% IGP overclock, the other mobo likely has it also

That's all of the differences I see on newegg.com. I would have to look up both boards on the manufacturers website to make a more detailed list of the differences and I'm too lazy for that.
By the way, what would an i5 2400 clocked at 3.1 ghz be as far as clock for clock dolphin performance is concerned vs a wolfdale E8500 clocked at 3.1 ghz?
(Because my dad has a Wolfdale Core 2 Duo.)
Impossible to say, other than that it would be faster. You're comparing apples to oranges so to speak. The difference in performance would likely vary a lot depending on the game, settings, and version of dolphin used. It would be very significant though no matter what. Wolfdales are still fine for most software but the newest generation of emulators (dolphin and PCSX2) are extremely demanding and pretty much require a sandy bridge cpu to run the heavier games with proper settings at fullspeed.

Does your dad also have an LGA 775 motherboard + RAM he can give you? If so what chipset/brand?

If you really do have that much money to spend I would go ahead and do a full system including an i5 2400. Honestly a wolfdale cpu will probably do just fine for everything other than emulators that you're trying to do and will probably be "good enough" for you but it's pointless to spend more than $260 on a graphics card right now (little to be gained from anything higher than a 6950 or GTX 560 TI) and you have more money than that so you might as well go for it.

Edit: As I said it would depend on settings/the game/revision of dolphin. However based on benchmarks and user reports I'de say 50-70% performance improvement at best and 20-30% at worst. I have seen sandy bridge cpus outperform core 2 quads in dolphin at the same clock rate by 66% before. And a sandy bridge cpu at 3.2GHz does outperform a core 2 quad at 4.0GHz in every situation (although to be fair core 2 duo/quads tend to run into memory bottlenecks at around 3.6-3.8GHz).
(10-22-2011, 11:15 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]Impossible to say, other than that it would be faster. You're comparing apples to oranges so to speak. The difference in performance would likely vary a lot depending on the game, settings, and version of dolphin used. It would be very significant though no matter what. Wolfdales are still fine for most software but the newest generation of emulators (dolphin and PCSX2) are extremely demanding and pretty much require a sandy bridge cpu to run the heavier games with proper settings at fullspeed.

Does your dad also have an LGA 775 motherboard + RAM he can give you? If so what chipset/brand?

If you really do have that much money to spend I would go ahead and do a full system including an i5 2400. Honestly a wolfdale cpu will probably do just fine for everything other than emulators that you're trying to do and will probably be "good enough" for you but it's pointless to spend more than $260 on a graphics card right now (little to be gained from anything higher than a 6950 or GTX 560 TI) and you have more money than that so you might as well go for it.


As I said before, not my money, Mom's money for Christmas.
(Which we agreed to.)

I only wanted to know due to playing BT3 on his PC and having it stutter like nothing else.

I really just wanted a comparison. I have no interest in a core 2 duo. (nor quad for that manner.)
Quote:I only wanted to know due to playing BT3 on his PC and having it stutter like nothing else.

BT3?

If that's a PC game then stuttering or poor performance (which are two very different things by the way) are not caused by having an inferior cpu. The vast majority of commercial PC games are so GPU heavy that even a 2.4GHz core 2 duo is enough for them. A few rts and rpg games exist where your framerate may drop when lots of units are moving around on the screen at the same time unless you have a quad core cpu, but they are rare (and the frostbite engine that the new battlefield games use will lag when lots of explosions and destruction is going on around you without a quad core cpu). But even these games are fine with a core 2 quad and don't require a core i series cpu. The only benefit for having a lyynfield/bloomfield/gulftown/sandy bridge cpu for gaming is when you have 3-4 high end graphics cards in SLI or crossfire it improves scaling substantially.

PC games have always been very GPU heavy (well, not always, since hardware transform and lighting became popular).

And in case you didn't see it:
Quote:Edit: As I said it would depend on settings/the game/revision of dolphin. However based on benchmarks and user reports I'de say 50-70% performance improvement at best and 20-30% at worst. I have seen sandy bridge cpus outperform core 2 quads in dolphin at the same clock rate by 66% before. And a sandy bridge cpu at 3.2GHz does outperform a core 2 quad at 4.0GHz in every situation (although to be fair core 2 duo/quads tend to run into memory bottlenecks at around 3.6-3.8GHz).
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Quote:I only wanted to know due to playing BT3 on his PC and having it stutter like nothing else.

Actually, BT3 is Budokai Tenkaichi 3. Wii fighting game.
Lookie!

Zotac is selling GTS 450's for $99!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500187

If that stays around I could get this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128520

Would the 450 or the i5 2400 benefit from this?
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