Dolphin, the GameCube and Wii emulator - Forums

Not sure if it's right or not, but if you click on the CPU name on their list, it says how many samples or test cases they used. They have over 200 for both. With so many test cases you have to assume it's correct. Who knows.

Then it's the applications fault unless you can explain to me why the laptop llano appears to have double the performance per clock of a phenom II or llano desktop (exact same chip).

For example tomshardware: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a8-3500m-llano-apu,2959-19.html
Shows a phenom II clocked at 2.4GHz performing significantly higher than an A8-3500M in every single test (and they tested several dozen different applications as you can see). The passmark results simply don't make sense. A phenom II 840 has 1/3 of the L3 cache disabled giving it 4MB of L3 cache instead of 6MB (which still gives it more cache space than llano) other than that it's the same chip as a 900 series phenom II. So why would the phenom II 840 clocked at 3.2GHz in the passmark benchmark perform about the same as llano while the phenom II clocked at a much lower 2.4GHz on tomshardware decimates llano in every test (as it logically should)? Every single hardware review site out there shows the same results, desktop phenom IIs consistently beat desktop llanos and significantly beat mobile llanos in every application. So who am I going to trust, all of the review sites, or passmark? Which would you trust?

I don't know why passmark got the results it got but those results are not normal.

If you want to continue this I suggest we do so over PM or IRC.

Lol.
I was going to get the Llano BUT, I ended up getting the Phenom 560 (which for me became the Phemo, b60) Black edition.
And I got the crappy 6450 Radeon HD.
Its okay...but it sucks in my opinion, and its the 512MB model, so basically its a low end crap GPU

However games run in playable frame rates(dunno about recording..)

I got gamecube games (TOS & Shadow the hedgehog) to run at 50-60 (except Gale)
And I got Tales of symphonia 2 to run around 25-30 (ima recheck this one)
Im going to try brawl and Okami in a bit and see how it performs.

(10-23-2011, 01:54 PM)[SS] Starscream Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-23-2011, 01:46 PM)TheDarkFenrir Wrote: [ -> ]anyways, I meant to ask, APU's are out of the question huh? (even Overclocked?)
I heard a APU-DOES HAVE intergrated graphics BUT its supposed to be on par with a 64xx AMD GFX card.

Laptops like the one in my signature use an APU and it does work with Dolphin. The video card is on par with an HD6570 desktop video card, it's not the greatest video card in the world but it is quite good for a laptop. I won't tell you that all games run well, but there is a good amount that do. Wii games are out of the question, though.

I have also a laptop with a Nvidia 555M card and an i5 2430 processor at 2.4 Ghz.
Gamecube games can run tolerably but even the lightest Wii games stutter and lag.

Isnt there any difference if you use the 64-bit version instead of the 32-bit? the lag and stutter seemed the same no matter what I chose.

(10-28-2011, 06:32 AM)petran79 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-23-2011, 01:54 PM)[SS] Starscream Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-23-2011, 01:46 PM)TheDarkFenrir Wrote: [ -> ]anyways, I meant to ask, APU's are out of the question huh? (even Overclocked?)
I heard a APU-DOES HAVE intergrated graphics BUT its supposed to be on par with a 64xx AMD GFX card.

Laptops like the one in my signature use an APU and it does work with Dolphin. The video card is on par with an HD6570 desktop video card, it's not the greatest video card in the world but it is quite good for a laptop. I won't tell you that all games run well, but there is a good amount that do. Wii games are out of the question, though.

I have also a laptop with a Nvidia 555M card and an i5 2430 processor at 2.4 Ghz.
Gamecube games can run tolerably but even the lightest Wii games stutter and lag.

Isnt there any difference if you use the 64-bit version instead of the 32-bit? the lag and stutter seemed the same no matter what I chose.

I hear the 64bit version is faster, also make sure to change your power settings on windows to HIGH performance, because if you dont you get studdering (due to the CPU's trying to maintain a low power setting)
Mine does that and I have an AMD.
But the intel laptop I have did that too, so it should work for you.

I tried the 64 bit version of 7369, enabled OpenGL, OpenCL and Wii games like Tatsunoko vs Capcom run smoothly at least and Gamecube games as well.

So on a laptop with an i5-2430M and a GT555M most GC and a few Wii games should run fine

(10-30-2011, 07:50 PM)petran79 Wrote: [ -> ]I tried the 64 bit version of 7369, enabled OpenGL, OpenCL and Wii games like Tatsunoko vs Capcom run smoothly at least and Gamecube games as well.

So on a laptop with an i5-2430M and a GT555M most GC and a few Wii games should run fine

Are you sure your graphics card supports OpenCL?
And also, why not direct x 9?
OpenGL is okay..but DX9 is faster to me.

Quote:Are you sure your graphics card supports OpenCL?

All dx10 compliant nvidia GPUs (geforce 8 series and higher) and some dx10.1 compliant AMD gpus (HD4000 series and higher) support openCL 1.0, which is what the openCL texture decoder for dolphin uses.

All dx11 compliant nvidia and AMD GPUs support openCL 1.1.

So yes, his gpu supports and, and supports openCL 1.1. And the fact that he can use it without getting an error message only further proves it.

Quote:And also, why not direct x 9?
OpenGL is okay..but DX9 is faster to me.

Nvidia 400/500 series GPUs have been known to perform better with openGL than d3d9 with certain drivers.

Is the Twilight Realm in TP pretty demanding? Would that area be a good spot to test?

I can do so at 100% game speed with 3x internal resolution (on both 1080p sets in my sig), 16xQ SSAA, and 1x anisotropic filtering using OpenGL as the backend.

I can do the same thing for the main titlescreen horseriding using the same settings, but also with 16x anisotropic filtering and the game speed rarely drops to 98%.

I find Direct3D9 to be the slowest and Direct3D11 to be nearly as fast as OpenGL, but with moderately worse AA enhancements. OpenGL is the best option for my system in terms of performance and enhancements.

Quote:Is the Twilight Realm in TP pretty demanding? Would that area be a good spot to test?

Define "demanding". I think you mean to say demanding on the GPU and not the cpu (thus making a good gpu benchmark). The golden standard for that right now is: http://forums.dolphin-emu.org/showthread.php?tid=14201

Your GTX 460 1GB is more than enough for even 4x IR.

Quote: 16xQ SSAA

No such thing, you must mean MSAA.