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My interest in using Dolphin is entirely to do a TAS of Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn (FE9-10), so I just need a graphics card that can run these 2 games at a respectable framerate.

Here's my computer specs.

Processor: Intel Core 2 Due CPU E6550 @ 2.33 GHz
Memory (RAM): 3.00 GB
System type: 32 bit
Edition: Vista Home Premium Service Pack 2

Since buying a graphic card just for this purpose seems pretty extravagant, I'm aiming to spend as little money as possible on a graphics card while still having it suit my purpose.

I’ve done some research and apparently it’s hard to get a respectable graphics card for under 100$. I looked on techspot and their lowest price recommended graphics card is AMD Radeon HD 5670 for 70$, but they’re testing their graphics cards on games with high-end graphics like Crysis and Call of Duty. For a game like Fire Emblem, it would probably be massive overkill.

So, what would be a good graphics card for my purposes that costs no more than say, 50$?
Radiant Dawn is mainly a cpu limited game if i remember correctly so to answer your question probably none.
(06-07-2011, 04:25 AM)Vykan12 Wrote: [ -> ]My interest in using Dolphin is entirely to do a TAS of Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn (FE9-10), so I just need a graphics card that can run these 2 games at a respectable framerate.

Here's my computer specs.

Processor: Intel Core 2 Due CPU E6550 @ 2.33 GHz
Memory (RAM): 3.00 GB
System type: 32 bit
Edition: Vista Home Premium Service Pack 2

Since buying a graphic card just for this purpose seems pretty extravagant, I'm aiming to spend as little money as possible on a graphics card while still having it suit my purpose.

I’ve done some research and apparently it’s hard to get a respectable graphics card for under 100$. I looked on techspot and their lowest price recommended graphics card is AMD Radeon HD 5670 for 70$, but they’re testing their graphics cards on games with high-end graphics like Crysis and Call of Duty. For a game like Fire Emblem, it would probably be massive overkill.

So, what would be a good graphics card for my purposes that costs no more than say, 50$?

ya... 2.33ghz you cant even play a wii game lol...
2.33ghz barely just enough to be able to suffer through gamecube

so get a 3-4ghz cpu, and graphics dont matter that much, a 5450 would be enough for 480P, maybe even 720. and a 5670-5770 is enough for 1080P.
Quote:Radiant Dawn is mainly a cpu limited game if i remember correctly so to answer your question probably none.

I doubt that's the case since I get this error message every time I try to play FE9-10 past the title screen.

[Image: Wiiemulatorerror1.jpg]

Quote:ya... 2.33ghz you cant even play a wii game lol...
2.33ghz barely just enough to be able to suffer through gamecube

I don't have the money to be buying a brand new computer. Since I'm TASing the game most of my time will be spent in frame advance anyway.
Quote:a 5450 would be enough for 480P

Only for some games (this one is probably included in that). For a lot of games a 5450 is not enough even for a 1x efb scale.

Quote:So, what would be a good graphics card for my purposes that costs no more than say, 50$?

At that price range ebay is your friend. But if you want something new then a 5450 or G210 is the best you can do with only $50. For $60 you can get a 6450 or GT220, that will handle anything you throw at it (speaking only about dolphin here) as long as you keep your resolution/efb scale low.

Quote:I don't have the money to be buying a brand new computer. Since I'm TASing the game most of my time will be spent in frame advance anyway.

You can always buy an aftermarket cooler for $30 and overclock. Or you could grab one on ebay for even less.
I tried playing Megaman 10 and Zelda: Four Swords since they don't require a video card just to see if my PC could handle it... Megaman 10 was disastrously slow while Four Swords gave around 50% speed when I got to control Link, pretty jarring.

So now I'm wondering, rather than buy a brand new computer, would it not be enough to upgrade my computer's processor to 3 GHz and throw in a decent video card?

Edit: I'll consider overclocking since I've seen some posts of guys who've gotten the same processor as mine to run at up to 3.1 GHz. I'm just worried how dangerous it is to the computer.
Quote:I'm just worried how dangerous it is to the computer.

As long as you keep the cpu from overheating by providing sufficient cooling and you don't raise the voltage it's literally impossible to actually damage the cpu. If your clock rate it too high it simple won't boot into windows, all you have to do is reset the system and undo the OC and there will be no permanent damage.

And yes if you OC to 3.0GHz and get a half decent video card that should be enough for most lightweight games such as the ones you have listed. What motherboard do you have?
(06-07-2011, 08:57 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:a 5450 would be enough for 480P

Only for some games (this one is probably included in that). For a lot of games a 5450 is not enough even for a 1x efb scale.

Quote:So, what would be a good graphics card for my purposes that costs no more than say, 50$?

At that price range ebay is your friend. But if you want something new then a 5450 or G210 is the best you can do with only $50. For $60 you can get a 6450 or GT220, that will handle anything you throw at it (speaking only about dolphin here) as long as you keep your resolution/efb scale low.

Quote:I don't have the money to be buying a brand new computer. Since I'm TASing the game most of my time will be spent in frame advance anyway.

You can always buy an aftermarket cooler for $30 and overclock. Or you could grab one on ebay for even less.

i havent actually tested wii games, but on gc my video card is usually at like 20% load (5470 which is about the same as a 5450). i cant imagine wii games would demand over 5x gc for native resolution...

and a 6450 lol? a 6450 is almost the same performance as a 5450, its barely better....
Where did you say you learned computer hardware from? O.o


(06-07-2011, 02:15 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:I'm just worried how dangerous it is to the computer.

As long as you keep the cpu from overheating by providing sufficient cooling and you don't raise the voltage it's literally impossible to actually damage the cpu. If your clock rate it too high it simple won't boot into windows, all you have to do is reset the system and undo the OC and there will be no permanent damage.

And yes if you OC to 3.0GHz and get a half decent video card that should be enough for most lightweight games such as the ones you have listed. What motherboard do you have?

2.33 > 3.0+ on stock voltage? id pay to see that lols

since you will have to raise voltage, id suggest you look at your motherboards power phase. if its like 3+1 or 4+1 you may want to invest in mosfet/vrm cooling as to not fry them from voltage raises.

You will need to get a new cpu cooler, id say something like the cooler master 212, its good for the price, and should fit in most all mid atx towers.

Also you need to remove all the old thermal paste on your cpu. you can either use the arctic silver thermal remover, or something like goof off then use 90%+ rubbing alcohol, and use a lint free cloth to wipe it. coffee filters work good for it.

Then you can use the thermal paste that may come with the cooler, or get some arctic silver 5. make sure o apply it right, id say go here and read up: http://www.arcticsilver.com/instructions.htm

Ok then also case cooling should also be good. set up fans like this. front/side=intake, rear/top=exhaust. try to get atleast 2 intake & 2 exhaust, and always use more intake then exhaust or you will create a vacuum from the unbalanced pressure. (remember if your psu fan is inside your case its part of your airflow circuit).


now that all the cooling is taken card of you can overclock freely, just make sure to go read up on some guides. as this post i already really long, i dont want to really go into detail about how to do it as well lol.

just always keep voltage as low as you can while you keep it stable. every time you change fsb/multipliers, run a 1hr stress test, if you get errors/warnings or crashes, raise voltage by a tick. repeat until you are happy with your overclock or your temps are too high. (if you have a good power phase or you have mosfet cooling you dont have to worry as much about raising the voltages). also remember your fsb affects just about everything else, you usually want to raise the multipliers rather then the fsb, as raising your fsb will cause other hardware to fail.

id recommend: coretemp, prime95 or orthos, and cpu-z
Quote:and a 6450 lol? a 6450 is almost the same performance as a 5450, its barely better....
A 6450 is about twice as fast as a 5450 on average, it replaced the 5550 not the 5450. It has DDR5 memory controllers instead of DDR3 and 160SPs instead of 80. All of it's specs are much higher.

Quote:Where did you say you learned computer hardware from? O.o
EVERYWHERE. I literally cannot find a single review site where the data does not agree with me.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4263/amds-radeon-hd-6450-uvd3-meets-htpc/5
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-6450-caicos-blu-ray-3d,2920-6.html
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-6450-review/3

Quote:i havent actually tested wii games, but on gc my video card is usually at like 20% load (5470 which is about the same as a 5450). i cant imagine wii games would demand over 5x gc for native resolution...

GPU load reported by software is meaningless. Any stage of the GPU pipeline can be bottlenecked while the total average load remains low. Not to mention the inequality between shader throughput requirements on different games is huge regardless of whether they are for the wii or GC. Due to the way dolphin emulated fixed function gpu hardware with shaders some games can easily require 20 times the shader throughput of others.

Quote:2.33 > 3.0+ on stock voltage? id pay to see that lols

Then you owe me a lot of money. Lots of people do this. I have been running my Q6600 (2.4GHz stock) at 3.2GHz at stock voltage for 4 years now without any problems, so have thousands of other people. 2.33GHz to 3.0GHz on stock voltage is not even a particularly high overclock by modern standards for any cpu core 2 or newer. Now a 50% overclock, THAT would be impressive/extremely unprobable for stock voltage.

Quote:since you will have to raise voltage,

No he won't. Nearly all intel cpus core 2 and up can achieve a 1/3 OC with stock voltage as long as you have a decent mobo and sufficient cooling.
I'd suggest getting a 9800GT, as they're only $49 at compusa right now. It's a great deal!

http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6460821&CatId=3670

Comparison with 6450 (it's about 4x better o_o):
http://www.hwcompare.com/10353/geforce-9800-gt-512mb-vs-radeon-hd-6450-oem-1gb/
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