its is apparent to me that fusion is simply a budget mobile processor architecture. it isn't designed to take the pc enthusiast community by storm but, rather offer a low cost, low power cpu/gpu combination for netbooks/notebooks. with the codename zacate cpu having a frequency of 1.6 ghz and only two cores, it looks like the cpu will actually perform slower than phenoms. having said that, these cpus will no doubt be a viable alternative to intel's atom architecture.
(01-30-2011, 02:33 AM)Runo Wrote: [ -> ]Why does people waste their time looking on the internet for things that hasnt been released yet just to ask here how will Dolphin run\support it, automatically wasting our time, who have to explain that there is no way that we can know how the f@#$% this will run, because it is not for sale, and so, as only a genius could presume, we cant test it? ¬¬
i think the person is just chatting for the sake of doing so. it was posted in the general discussion section, after all, which exists so that people can post random questions or information. at least this person didn't know what the performance was gonna be. at least he didnt ask a retarded question like if a sandy bridge was good or not.
"Why does people waste their time looking on the internet for things that hasnt been released yet just to ask here how will Dolphin run\support it, automatically wasting our time, who have to explain that there is no way that we can know how the f@#$% this will run, because it is not for sale, and so, as only a genius could presume, we cant test it?"
I ask the question because I think devs knows the answer because it means just to say if Dolphin processes a significant quantity of vectorial instructions so that Fusion can to do the difference with your probable future desktop version. It would be like Dolphin running under, like, a CUDA plataform...
To date, AMD is 2 generations behind Intel =] Let just hope that bulldozer would give amd fan something to talk about or at least comparable to the first gen of Core i7...
(01-30-2011, 05:07 AM)tuanming Wrote: [ -> ]To date, AMD is 2 generations behind Intel =] Let just hope that bulldozer would give amd fan something to talk about or at least comparable to the first gen of Core i7...
I dont think amd fans are under the impression that their cpus are any faster. this new fusion technology isnt going to be faster than phenom II's, just much more efficient, and budgetary.
And actually has decent graphics
If there's anything to test in Dolphin, it'd be that - the integrated graphics. If I recall, from comparing benchmarks on Tom's Hardware, the lowest-end Fusion graphics are a bit slower than the HIGHEST-end Sandy Bridge graphics.
Quote:no, but AMD is on record saying it provides comparable performance to a nahalem.
^This.
Quote:And actually has decent graphics Tongue
If there's anything to test in Dolphin, it'd be that - the integrated graphics. If I recall, from comparing benchmarks on Tom's Hardware, the lowest-end Fusion graphics are a bit slower than the HIGHEST-end Sandy Bridge graphics.
Quote:its is apparent to me that fusion is simply a budget mobile processor architecture. it isn't designed to take the pc enthusiast community by storm but, rather offer a low cost, low power cpu/gpu combination for netbooks/notebooks. with the codename zacate cpu having a frequency of 1.6 ghz and only two cores, it looks like the cpu will actually perform slower than phenoms. having said that, these cpus will no doubt be a viable alternative to intel's atom architecture.
Both of you first read my post again:
Quote:AMD fusion is a broad term that covers many different cpus. Which chip architecture are you talking about? Are you referring to bulldozer?
Now some more reading for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd_fusion
Now you should understand what I mean by that. You're confusing brazos with amd fusion. Brazos is one chip of many labeled under the marketing term "AMD fusion" all of which are designed for completely different purposes. Brazos was designed for ultra-mobile platforms to compete with intels atom and nvidias ion platform. As a desktop user you should be looking at llano and trinity. Saying "AMD fusion" is like saying "pentium". Their have been/will be a lot of cpus under that name since it's just a marketing term.
Hey, I used it correctly. I said the lowest-end Fusion graphics - that would be the Radeon 6310 included with Brazos.
At least, it's CURRENTLY the lowest-end Fusion graphics. I wouldn't be surprised if it stays that way, seeing how it's supposed to be an "Atom smasher".
EDIT: Just checked Tom's Hardware's review and it was a Zacate APU, which is the SECOND to lowest-end. Still, that's pretty impressive.
EDIT 2: Here it is, the second lowest-end Fusion APU:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/asrock-e350m1-amd-brazos-zacate-apu,2840-8.html
and the current highest-end Sandy Bridge CPU:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sandy-bridge-core-i7-2600k-core-i5-2500k,2833-7.html
OK so it's more than a bit, but that's still a very good showing for such a low-end Fusion part, especially since it's within spitting distance of the Core i5-2500K (the highest-end Sandy Bridge Core i5).