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sorry. amd has just ruined ATI further.
(01-07-2011, 01:43 AM)Anti-Ultimate Wrote: [ -> ]NOOOOOOOOOOOO

GTX 580 eats the HD6870 !

-_-. That's why the 6870 is half the price of the gtx580 right? The 6870 isn't even the highest end. A 6970 is 15% slower than a 580, but it's 25% cheaper too.
Aye, personally I want them both to do well, better value for the customer.
Quote:-_-. That's why the 6870 is half the price of the gtx580 right? The 6870 isn't even the highest end. A 6970 is 15% slower than a 580, but it's 25% cheaper too.

the 6870 is junk, the 6970 is also junk but because amd's drivers make it that way.
well, a gtx 570 is better than a 6970 in terms of price performance, but no, not all amd products are junk.
I agree with Squall Leonhart, Nvidia currently has the best GFX cards!
But this depends a lot, specially because some people consider ythat being the best means having a lot of cards better than the other company, some think if your best card beats the other company's best card you are the best, and yet other people says you need to evaluate the card's price/benefit.

Eh, both ATI and Nvidia are fine right now. This time a year ago, it was ATI kicking ass with their Radeon 5000-series lineup, and Nvidia made a bit of a joke of themselves with their first Fermi (GF100) GPUs, the GTX 480 and GTX 470. The GTX 570 and GTX 580 are quite a bit better.

ATI's always been there for efficiency. The amount of power required to generate the same performance as comparable Nvidia chips is normally lower. ATI often doesn't get the same raw performance as Nvidia's lineup, though.

Both ATI and Nvidia offer solid products. They'll trade blows from time to time, but it's rare for either side to maintain the top tier of performance for an exceptionally long amount of time. Never buy a GPU because of its manufacturer unless you have very specific requirements (i.e. CUDA). Go for the best product you can find. Contrary to popular belief, neither side's drivers are all that terrible. They're constantly being updated and improved upon.
+1 on Kodiack's
(01-07-2011, 11:54 AM)Kodiack Wrote: [ -> ]Eh, both ATI and Nvidia are fine right now. This time a year ago, it was ATI kicking ass with their Radeon 5000-series lineup, and Nvidia made a bit of a joke of themselves with their first Fermi (GF100) GPUs, the GTX 480 and GTX 470. The GTX 570 and GTX 580 are quite a bit better.

ATI's always been there for efficiency. The amount of power required to generate the same performance as comparable Nvidia chips is normally lower. ATI often doesn't get the same raw performance as Nvidia's lineup, though.

Both ATI and Nvidia offer solid products. They'll trade blows from time to time, but it's rare for either side to maintain the top tier of performance for an exceptionally long amount of time. Never buy a GPU because of its manufacturer unless you have very specific requirements (i.e. CUDA). Go for the best product you can find. Contrary to popular belief, neither side's drivers are all that terrible. They're constantly being updated and improved upon.

you obviously missed the recent threads regarding AMD's broken AF, AF quality issues, shimmering, buggy CCC, underscan, overclocking, undervolting, and a whole slew of opengl issues in the 10.5+ drivers.

best amd drivers are still 10.4.
(01-07-2011, 12:03 PM)Squall Leonhart Wrote: [ -> ]you obviously missed the recent threads regarding AMD's broken AF, AF quality issues, shimmering, buggy CCC, underscan, overclocking, undervolting, and a whole slew of opengl issues in the 10.5+ drivers.

best amd drivers are still 10.4.

The underclocking and undervolting issues are semi-common issues that can be fixed with a vBIOS update. I've done this on quite a few cards myself.

The AF quality is supposed to be able to be disabled, and the shimmering isn't noticeable in a majority of titles. It's not even that big of a deal in benchmarks meant to test for it. 10.10e does give you more Catalyst AI control. It's the driver I'm running, and hopefully some of these options are standard in 11.1+.

Underscanning is a problem I first experienced on an NVidia GTX 260 card. I hooked up a shiny new 1080p monitor and had to change a few things to get it to display correctly. Either way, with both NVidia and ATI, underscan/overscan issues are easily resolved by simply adjusting a setting or two in their respective control panels.

Broken OpenGL? Eh, I wouldn't entirely know. I don't use that too much, but when I've used it in various titles (i.e. WoW and Dolphin), I haven't witnessed any immediate issues. It may be different from a coder's point of view, though. I really can't speak one way or another on that issue.
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