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ah sorry, got carried away again when someone spouting nonsense. anyway, that two machine will offer similar performance; that AMD wil perform slightly better but the Intel one will have higher OC potential and a better gpu.

my 2 cent.

fair enough. darkshadw was of course incorrect, but i could see it descending into a flame war which won't really help anyone.
on topic, as per my previous posts, i believe that the intel machine is a laptop, which would pretty much rule out overclocking or upgrading.
i think therefore that he'll be better off with the amd machine, which appears to be a desktop - unless they've started making 2.8ghz athlon x2 laptops with 4 year old graphics hardware...

whoops didn't see that M on the 8700, so yeah, that AMD wil still be the faster one in the end... that gpu is really limiting though.

yeah, but a half-decent gpu that would run dolphin adequately wouldn't be very expensive. something like a second hand hd 4670 or 9600gt would be pretty cheap and would do the job quite nicely i reckon. but then of course he'd be cpu limited again...

go for intel.... every core 2 duo can be overclocked around 600 mhz easily !..... you can get 1ghz +
(not on laptops)
you're gonna get a laptop or desktop pc?



if you compare the Athlon 64 x2 2.8 ghz and a core 2 duo at 2ghz... hard to say...
but if you overclock that core 2 duo to 2,3 ghz you will beat the amd x2...
that amd cpu is not good dolphin or overclocking...


edit#1:
so look
an e4500 has a standart clock of 2,2 ghz....

and after overclocking it has 3,2...


at a clock of 3 ghz you will be able to play nearly every game on dolphin...

LMAO, Athlon architecture is miles slower per clock ratio than core2 architecture. Same goes for the "i" series. Leaps and bounds ahead of AMD.

A 2.0 core2duo > 2.8 athlonx2

Core2 architecture is actually 1-2% quicker than Phenom architecture per clock basis.....

So... please... don't spread misinformation of Athlon being better than core2.

Also... is everyone ignoring the 6150 SE Nvidia card? Seriously? You think it is faster than a 8700m (albeit they are both crap). That is a VERY old video card that was VERY LOW END when it was released.

@Bigsteve3570: "is everyone ignoring the 6150 SE Nvidia card?" seriously, everyone?

also, if you're going to argue that one chip is faster than another, then please provide evidence. although probably best not to look on madshrimps...

(09-03-2010, 07:59 AM)turingpest Wrote: [ -> ]@Bigsteve3570: "is everyone ignoring the 6150 SE Nvidia card?" seriously, everyone?

also, if you're going to argue that one chip is faster than another, then please provide evidence. although probably best not to look on madshrimps...

Holy crap, just check any benchmark from any noticeable site (anandtech, guru3d, ... hell I dare you to make a post about it with your stupid claims on overclock.net; be prepared to get WRECKED).

How about you go check the evidence? I'm not about to waste my time on a tried and true fact.

Actually, forget it, ignorance is bliss, eh? Continue living in a world where you think the Athlon architecture isn't significantly slower than the core2 and where the i series architecture doesn't stomp on the phenoms.

Fine by me.

(09-03-2010, 07:59 AM)turingpest Wrote: [ -> ]@Bigsteve3570: "is everyone ignoring the 6150 SE Nvidia card?" seriously, everyone?

also, if you're going to argue that one chip is faster than another, then please provide evidence. although probably best not to look on madshrimps...

6150SE is not suitable for modern games or even a ps2/wii emulator.
It's made in 2004-2006, has 0mb physical memory, 128mb virtual , 2 pipelines and extremely poor performance.

8700M on the other hand is a modern laptop card operating at reasonable frequencies, utilizes 512mb physical gddr3 ram, 32 pipelines, support dx10 etc.

It can be hard to find benchmarks on 6150 SE, because it's not even a video card. It's just a graphics chip integrated into certain old motherboards.
All being said, it's meant for light video decoding and web surfing. It's not suitable for gaming use. Here are benchmarks for it.



You can use such integrated solutions to play at 800x600 res, in maybe some light gamecube games. In general it's just a bad choice.

@Bigsteve3570:

sigh. i tried posting rationally and economically on here, as not only do i think that it's poor form to stray too far off topic, but i'm also wary of getting drawn into petty arguments about hardware. however, it seems you simply don't have the inclination or reading comprehension to understand my posts. if you did you would understand that i don't think that "Athlon architecture isn't significantly slower than the core2 and where the i series architecture doesn't stomp on the phenoms." i stated that you should provide evidence as simply claiming that a core 2 duo has somewhere in the region of 40% superior ipc over k8 athlons is your opinion and isn't really helpful to anyone without evidence.

also, and this is for Ocean as well (who's been posting here long enough to know better), contrary to what you've both inferred i don't think that the 6150se is a good gpu. what i meant by "is everyone ignoring the 6150 SE Nvidia card?" seriously, everyone?", is that everyone hadn't ignored it. as well as me, both Runo and naoan had alluded to the fact that it's pretty awful. of course it would massively degrade dolphin performance, which is why i recommended that the OP buy a decent gpu in my previous posts.

ignorance is indeed bliss.