ok this is turning into politics
lets make facts here now shall we?
1.intel i7 620 is ONLY 2.6ghz,thats speed of my god forsaken athlon x2, price 280$
lets not bother with trivial things,just concentrate on cpu speed,since thats what dolphin want's
2.Phenom x4 BE 555 3.1ghz 180$.easy upgradable to newer cpu on same board in few years if wanted.
intel i7 if wanned to upgrade to newer cpu board must be changed(bought new one) thats ?another 150$?
phenom can support on all boards since its AM2+ compatibile.
i never oc-e my own cpu in life i love it not oc'ed :-) since i can for low money always upgrade to faster amd cpu rather then oc-ing
question of topic starter is answered.its up to him to choose.
(06-23-2010, 03:57 AM)IcemanSR Wrote: [ -> ]intel i7 if wanned to upgrade to newer cpu board must be changed(bought new one) thats ?another 150$?
phenom can support on all boards since its AM2+ compatibile.
i never oc-e my own cpu in life i love it not oc'ed :-) since i can for low money always upgrade to faster amd cpu rather then oc-ing
question of topic starter is answered.its up to him to choose.
Please don't give false assumptions, you honestly can't guarentee that if he bought an AM3 or AM2+ board that with the next generation of CPU's that they won't require AM4 or whatever AMD call it. It's been confirmed that yes if you wish to upgrade your i7 next year you'd need a new motherboard but you sure as hell can't confirm anything about AMD's side. You especially can't say that you can upgrade with the same board in a "few years if wanted". The original poster has said he WILL be overclocking so obviously the i7 is the perfect choice since he would get better performance with the i7 than the Phenom II since he'd be overclocking it!
Please don't give false assumptions, you honestly can't guarentee that if he bought an AM3 or AM2+ board that with the next generation of CPU's that they won't require AM4 or whatever AMD call it. It's been confirmed that yes if you wish to upgrade your i7 next year you'd need a new motherboard but you sure as hell can't confirm anything about AMD's side. You especially can't say that you can upgrade with the same board in a "few years if wanted". The original poster has said he WILL be overclocking so obviously the i7 is the perfect choice since he would get better performance with the i7 than the Phenom II since he'd be overclocking it!
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You fool lol the phenom II black editions are made for overclocking so why do you say hands down the i7 if he is going to over clock sorry but what a prat lets all face it a phenom 965 BE is the best cpu money can buy 4 cores 3.4GHZ easly clock to 3.8 or even 4 and cost loads less then any intel cpu that would give the same peformance. Friend just buy a phenom II AND GET FANTASTIC PEFORMANCE AND SAVE LOADS OF CASH.
You intel people make me so angry.
(06-23-2010, 04:37 AM)ebhomepc Wrote: [ -> ]You fool lol the phenom II black editions are made for overclocking so why do you say hands down the i7 if he is going to over clock sorry but what a prat lets all face it a phenom 965 BE is the best cpu money can buy 4 cores 3.4GHZ easly clock to 3.8 or even 4 and cost loads less then any intel cpu that would give the same peformance. Friend just buy a phenom II AND GET FANTASTIC PEFORMANCE AND SAVE LOADS OF CASH. You intel people make me so angry.
Because if they are both overclocked the intel would beat it, Core i7's perform much better clock for clock than Phenom II's. Don't call me an Intel fanboy when you are blatantly an AMD fanboy. I have done extensive research looking at the difference in performance between CPU's that's is where I base MY decision. I don't base my decision on having a favourite manufacturer, I have no favourite manufacturer of anything from motherboards, CPU's, GPU's or anything else for that matter. I don't know whether or not a 965BE would perform better than the Core i7 if they were both at stock but overclocked where they can be expected to reach 4GHz the Core i7 would come out the victor. This is not favouritism or fanboyism speaking, this is factual evidence taking from benchmarks from multiple trusted sources. Don't accuse someone of being a fanboy when I am the ONLY person to show proof of my claims.
(06-23-2010, 05:15 AM)Wiiskur Wrote: [ -> ] (06-23-2010, 04:42 AM)storm20200 Wrote: [ -> ]Because if they are both overclocked the intel would beat it, Core i7's perform much better clock for clock than Phenom II's. Don't call me an Intel fanboy when you are blatantly an AMD fanboy. I have done extensive research looking at the difference in performance between CPU's that's is where I base MY decision. I don't base my decision on having a favourite manufacturer, I have no favourite manufacturer of anything from motherboards, CPU's, GPU's or anything else for that matter. I don't know whether or not a 965BE would perform better than the Core i7 if they were both at stock but overclocked where they can be expected to reach 4GHz the Core i7 would come out the victor. This is not favouritism or fanboyism speaking, this is factual evidence taking from benchmarks from multiple trusted sources. Don't accuse someone of being a fanboy when I am the ONLY person to show proof of my claims.
Signed!
Ok this is the last on this subject is that tiny tiny bit of peformance worth the extra cash my system will run any pc game made to date in maxed settings in bettr graphics then any console no i dont think the cpu is a good value for money compared with the 965 be.
(06-23-2010, 05:23 AM)ebhomepc Wrote: [ -> ]Ok this is the last on this subject is that tiny tiny bit of peformance worth the extra cash my system will run any pc game made to date in maxed settings in bettr graphics then any console no i dont think the cpu is a good value for money compared with the 965 be.
That's very subjective to what that extra cash is, on
http://www.scan.co.uk they list the x6 1055T in question at £159 and the i7 920 at £179, for less than 15% extra it gives a good performance boost, especially overclocked. And whether or not your CPU can play any "PC" game to date has nothing to do with this topic. For general computing tasks the extra cost gives a big performance boost when overclocked since gaming isn't very CPU limited. But since this topic is to do with Dolphin which emulates GC and Wii games NOT PC games the i7 would be much better suited.
(06-23-2010, 05:44 AM)storm20200 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-23-2010, 05:23 AM)ebhomepc Wrote: [ -> ]Ok this is the last on this subject is that tiny tiny bit of peformance worth the extra cash my system will run any pc game made to date in maxed settings in bettr graphics then any console no i dont think the cpu is a good value for money compared with the 965 be.
That's very subjective to what that extra cash is, on http://www.scan.co.uk they list the x6 1055T in question at £159 and the i7 920 at £179, for less than 15% extra it gives a good performance boost, especially overclocked. And whether or not your CPU can play any "PC" game to date has nothing to do with this topic. For general computing tasks the extra cost gives a big performance boost when overclocked since gaming isn't very CPU limited. But since this topic is to do with Dolphin which emulates GC and Wii games NOT PC games the i7 would be much better suited.
Sorry no your wrong the phenom II X6 when clocked in @ 3.4 is better any way what im saying is dont just buy a cpu because of one emulater think all round the i7 920 is not as good as a phenom II X6 especially if your thinking future use. OK so lets say clock for clock the i7 beats the phenom but not by much its defently not a big boost its hardly noticeable so why not pay less and get a extra 2 cores and not after upgrade your mainboard when you need a new cpu. Also if you check the benchmarks for the i7 920 and the phenom x6 you will see @ stock the phenom beats it.
(06-23-2010, 06:54 AM)ebhomepc Wrote: [ -> ]Sorry no your wrong the phenom II X6 when clocked in @ 3.4 is better any way what im saying is dont just buy a cpu because of one emulater think all round the i7 920 is not as good as a phenom II X6 especially if your thinking future use. OK so lets say clock for clock the i7 beats the phenom but not by much its defently not a big boost its hardly noticeable so why not pay less and get a extra 2 cores and not after upgrade your mainboard when you need a new cpu. Also if you check the benchmarks for the i7 920 and the phenom x6 you will see @ stock the phenom beats it.
Right I've done what you asked, I've looked through 3 DIFFERENT reviews and I'm failing to see how the Phenom X6 "beats it". I've looked at
bit-tech (which you should note is the i7 930 (133MHz increase) against the 3.2GHz X6 (400MHz increase)). I've looked at
Anandtech. I've looked at
Xbitlabs (which if you notice the i7 920 loses to the 1055T by 0.41FPS, even though the 1055T has 2 extra cores). So please stop giving me words TELLING me that it is a better CPU and show me FACTS. I want proof not word of mouth. So far I'm still the only person showing proof to support my claims! I'm not being a fanboy, I'm stating facts.
EDIT: Also you may want to note that in all 3 reviews I've shown your beloved 965BE is also benchmarked ^_^
@storm20200,
how long have u been in hardware's world?
AMD is known for supporting their own hardware for ever!
even OLD socket A board can today be upgraded or replaced with newer CPU's generations and or boards!AMD is the most user friendly hardware as it can be.
thats almost 7 years of hardware support generations!
can it same be told for intel???
NO
for intel how they make new cpu that's how they change socket,meaning u have to buy new board in order to get that cpu.
that's fact,and u should know better before challenging that!
Today new AMD AM3 socket is backward compatible! which means it can fit an all AM2+ boards!
AMD reveled that next gen of cpu's will be backward compatible as always been!So lets not talk rubbish.
anyway i am done here.
There is no person in world who could convince me of buying intel 3 years old intel CPU for 280$ just because he says its faster when tomorrow when upgrading i have to buy board and cpu again,while i can get one of latest gen cpu hardware for 180$ with looong future support on my happily working AM2+ old board!
U just do not get what u have payed FOR.
with difference in price u could buy 2 of same from AMD!
P.S
i see u are having "i5 750 @ 3.2GHz"
why don't u put your "beloved" i7?does price bothers u?or is it just that u have to buy board + cpu ,and then next year new board and new cpu,and again ..?
for the end:
2 years ago me and my friend bought new comp's
he got intel comp worth 1300Euros i bought 400Euros AMD
Today,with his intel 2.1 ghz he is not capable to play any newer game - battlefield 2 example,and or dolphin :-)
due to lack of money he bought 7600XTX if i recall ,for me i used extra cash and bought Ati 3870x2 most powerful gpu then with modular chieftek 700W.and AMD 5200+ 2.6 ghz,every game works perfectly even today in full speed, and with tomorrows AMD x4 555 BE i will be even happier.for just 180$ and i can still keep my M2n-SLI board.which works flawlessly ,and him?he has to yet to replace his chieftek 400w ,and GPU and board,and CPU..and in 2 years all over again,except PSU maybe :-) BUT this time he is buying AMD.That's says all...
Thank u and good night.