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Xenoblade slowdown during fights (only?)
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Xenoblade slowdown during fights (only?)
02-03-2013, 12:15 PM
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I'm having this rather annoying problem playing Xenoblade, in that no matter what settings I use, Dolphin insists on crawling along at 20 FPS max during fights. Some basic info:

Windows 7 x64
Intel i5 @3.30GHz
GeForce GTX 560 Ti (2726MB memory)
4GB RAM

Dolphin version: 3.5-269
Xenoblade version: NTSC

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My PC is hooked up to a 42'' HDTV so that's my monitor.

So here's what happens. Outside of battles, the game runs pretty much perfectly at 30 FPS. Even if I'm going into a big area for the first time, the FPS only drops for a few moments before stabilizing around 30 FPS. Occasionally the sound will hang and in rare events the emulator will freeze, but from what I've gathered that's par for the course with this game so I can handle that (save often!)

What's really bugging me is that 95% of the time when I enter combat, the FPS plummets to 19-20. Only time this might not happen is if I'm fighting in a really small, enclosed hallway or something. Okay, I thought, maybe I should turn the graphics settings down. I've tried every permutation of settings I could think of, even going so far as to turn off any performance-decreasing enhancements and render the game at 1x Native in a 640x480 window (Like the settings in the sticky). The game looked like ass and it still crawled along at 19-20 FPS during fights. I'm pretty sure I've seen videos of people doing these fights at a steady 25-30 FPS like it should be, so I have no idea what's going on here. I'm actually 35 hours into the game so I've had plenty of time to try different settings. Things I've tried:

- Rendering in Direct3D9, Direct3D11, and OpenGL. No dice (game still freezes on rare occasions too regardless)
- Rendering in various internal resolutions and switching between windowed/fullscreen. 3x/4x starts to lag outside of battles too (though battles are still at 19-20) so 2x is a sweet spot in terms of non-battles.
- Different framelimit settings, all with/without Limit by FPS checked. Here's where I was actually seeing some interesting things happening:

Auto: What I usually use
Audio: Tried it, didn't notice a difference from Auto
Off: This switched things up a bit. Now battles run at 25-27 FPS like they're supposed to, but everything outside of combat is too fast (usually 40 FPS, 35 walking around in huge areas). Cutscenes are all sped-up and anything outside of combat looks like the game is in a sort-of perpetual fast-forward state, which is offputting to say the least.

I have no idea why the emulator seems capable of handling the battles in normal speed while Framelimit is Off but slows them down on Auto. It's like I can't achieve the correct balance; I can't get the battles to run normally like they do with Framelimit Off and have everything outside of combat run normally like they do with Framelimit Auto. I can understand why the game might run too fast without Framelimiting enabled, what I don't understand is why the automatic setting isn't working the way you'd think it would.

So I'm stumped. Any suggestions?
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02-03-2013, 01:06 PM
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3.5-269 is a known broken revision, get a newer one from http://dolphin-emu.com/download/.

For your other settings, enabling OpenMP Texture Decoder might help a tiny bit, but I don't know if any further improvements can be made without overclocking.

As for the odd framelimit behavior, uh... I dunno, man, the thing's crazy.
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02-03-2013, 01:08 PM (This post was last modified: 02-03-2013, 01:11 PM by admin89.)
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You're using "EFB copies to Ram" which will chop off performance for accuracy . Switch to "texture" then you will be fine
Or you can tick "enable cache" and keep using EFB copies to Ram , this should speed up abit but not as fast as texture
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02-03-2013, 01:21 PM
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Yeah I've tried switching to "texture", no difference. Also enabling openMP made no difference either.

If I try a different version of Dolphin, how do I transfer my saved game over?
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02-03-2013, 01:25 PM
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Try setting it to texture while in-game. Xenoblade probably has EFB to RAM forced in its config...

Switching between revisions should be as easy as swapping out the Dolphin.exe.
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02-03-2013, 02:12 PM
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Just overwrite the new version over the old version , you don't need to transfer anything
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Clevo W230SS : 3200x1800 IPS | i7 4700MQ @ 3.6GHz (Intel XTU + Triple fan mod) | GTX 860M GDDR5 | 128GB Toshiba CFD SSD | 16GB DDR3L 1600MHz
Aspire 715 43G : 1080p 144Hz |  R5 5625U @ 4.3GHz | Nvidia RTX 3050 4GB | 500GB WD SSD  | 16GB DDR4 3200MHz 
Mini PC :: (Show Spoiler)
G3258 @ 4.6GHz | ELSA GTX 750 | Asrock Z87E ITX | 600W SFX 80+ Gold Silverstone + SG06-LITE | Corsair Vengeance 8GB 2000MHz | Scythe Kozuti + Ao Kaze | 45TB 2.5" Ex HDD (in total) , Zelda Gold Wiimote , LE Wii Classic Controller , Gold LE PS3 DualShock , BlackWidow Chroma ,
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02-03-2013, 02:16 PM (This post was last modified: 02-03-2013, 02:17 PM by Dev1L.)
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I have same issue as OP. Set Framelimit to 30 + "Limit by FPS", it works fine for me, i have stable 30 all time.
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02-03-2013, 02:25 PM (This post was last modified: 02-03-2013, 02:30 PM by sovereign110.)
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(02-03-2013, 02:16 PM)Dev1L Wrote: I have same issue as OP. Set Framelimit to 30 + "Limit by FPS", it works fine for me, i have stable 30 all time.
Where do you live, I want to come over and sex you.

Yes, that worked. And now I know exactly what "Limit by FPS" means. Rather self-explanatory, actually....I feel dumb for missing it. Ah, the bliss of proper emulation....

Thanks for the replies everyone. It was a fun ride!
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