X86 Build on xp32 (Not a valid 32Bit Application)

[anonyme-x22]

Hi,

Want to Try the latest version of dolphin.
Since 3 weeks now the x86 build don't work. (Not a valid win32 application)
Any idea ?


Thanks in advance,
Rgds,

[ExtremeDude2]

Dolphin no longer works on XP as of shortly after 4.0 I belive

[anonyme-x22]

Hi,

I don't understand how a 32Bit application could not works anymore on xp!
I hope this is not the right answer, first directx9, then xp.



Rgds,

[DJBarry004]

(12-31-2013, 04:58 AM)anonyme-x22 Wrote: Hi,

I don't understand how a 32Bit application could not works anymore on xp!
I hope this is not the right answer, first directx9, then xp.



Rgds,

It doesn´t work because:

1- XP is WAY old.

2- XP doesn´t support VC++ 2013 which is required to run actual Dolphin builds.

[Anti-Ultimate]

(12-31-2013, 04:58 AM)anonyme-x22 Wrote: Hi,

I don't understand how a 32Bit application could not works anymore on xp!
I hope this is not the right answer, first directx9, then xp.



Rgds,

You own a i7 3770. What's the reason for putting XP on that (oh lord i hope you didn't consider getting the 64-bit version).

If you plan on using Dolphin consider upgrading to 7/8.1. XP will only slow you down.

[anonyme-x22]

(12-31-2013, 05:08 AM)Anti-Ultimate Wrote:

(12-31-2013, 04:58 AM)anonyme-x22 Wrote: Hi,

I don't understand how a 32Bit application could not works anymore on xp!
I hope this is not the right answer, first directx9, then xp.



Rgds,

You own a i7 3770. What's the reason for putting XP on that (oh lord i hope you didn't consider getting the 64-bit version).

If you plan on using Dolphin consider upgrading to 7/8.1. XP will only slow you down.

Hi,

1 - All the emulator i use works goods on xp and are configured etc... Even PCSX2 (about 16)
2 - I have trouble with several of then on seven.
3 - Dolphin on seven don't allow read of game from dvdrom as they have not the same file system.
4 - Dolphin 32bit don't run faster on seven, but on xp (don't know about the 64 bit)

I can understand that, directx 9 , cannot do simply all the stuff needed for emulating well the wii or the gamecube.

I cannot understand where visual studio 2012 will block further development on the emulator.

You don't need the latest developement environment to works with the latest OS.
I know compagnies who works with deplhi 6 on windows 8.1...

You politic , is the same as microsoft, you want to use this, then buy a new computer, and a new OS, years by years, you don't need it, you don"t want it , to bad , because i have a software that you will want, but as you don't want to change all you beloved environment, you won't have it....
Rgds,

[Anti-Ultimate]

(12-31-2013, 05:23 AM)anonyme-x22 Wrote:

(12-31-2013, 05:08 AM)Anti-Ultimate Wrote:

(12-31-2013, 04:58 AM)anonyme-x22 Wrote: Hi,

I don't understand how a 32Bit application could not works anymore on xp!
I hope this is not the right answer, first directx9, then xp.



Rgds,

You own a i7 3770. What's the reason for putting XP on that (oh lord i hope you didn't consider getting the 64-bit version).

If you plan on using Dolphin consider upgrading to 7/8.1. XP will only slow you down.

Hi,

1 - All the emulator i use works goods on xp and are configured etc... Even PCSX2 (about 16)
2 - I have trouble with several of then on seven.
3 - Dolphin on seven don't allow read of game from dvdrom as they have not the same file system.
4 - Dolphin 32bit don't run faster on seven, but on xp (don't know about the 64 bit)

I can understand that, directx 9 , cannot do simply all the stuff needed for emulating well the wii or the gamecube.

I cannot understand where visual studio 2012 will block further development on the emulator.

You don't need the latest developement environment to works with the latest OS.
I know compagnies who works with deplhi 6 on windows 8.1...

You politic , is the same as microsoft, you want to use this, then buy a new computer, and a new OS, years by years, you don't need it, you don"t want it , to bad , because i have a software that you will want, but as you don't want to change all you beloved environment, you won't have it....
Rgds,

1. Fine for you. Someday XP won't be supported. anymore.
2. All those other millions of people don't appear to.
3. That doesn't even make any sense. Are you trying to read a real GC/Wii disc via a DVD drive? That will be slow as fuck even if you manage to get it to work. Just dump your discs and put them onto a harddrive
4. I can't really say this. The jump from 32-bit to 64-bits is huge in Dolphin and even faster when you put Win7 on it. Nonetheless 7 32-bit should still be faster than XP.

Also, your last part:


If the devs decide not to support a OS anymore which WON'T EVEN be supported by it's creators then it's time to upgrade. XP is 11 years old now, stop whining about having to buy a new OS every new years. You DON'T have to use Dolphin. You didn't even pay to use this software. Deal with it.

[JMC47]

I'll give you a quick rundown, I'm not really a coder but I know the arguments on both sides.

1: It's more work to support Windows XP. The support for Windows XP was removed quite a while ago, and this is one of the first actual complaints about it. Is it really worth the developer's time to maintain and fix bugs on an OS that almost none of the userbase is using?

2: VS2010 was an inferior IDE and was holding back the developers. Switching to VS2012 has made Dolphin faster, it's allowed the developers new debugging and coding techniques to fix bugs that were highly problematic before.

3: D3D9 was holding back graphical development on Dolphin. zFreeze + Tev_Fixes_New will fix hundreds of games with issues when they're complete, and neither can be merged with D3D9 around.

4: On the other hand, Apple users have to remain as updated as possible to run Dolphin. You can ask Pauldachz for details, but being even two or three years out of date with OS updates makes Dolphin not work properly.

5: Dolphin 64bit will run much faster than Dolphin 32bit. Dolphin has been optimized specifically for 32bit. There is literally no reason for someone with a modern processor to be running a 32bit OS. You'll even notice a sizeable speedup on the build that killed Windows XP support; the old OS is holding back Dolphin.

6: The developers took a long time to process this decision, and it was not an easy one. The fact is that no one on the team, even those pro XP, did anything to stop XP support from being removed showed that it was more trouble than it was worth to keep it around.

7: Last but not least; you still have the older builds of Dolphin to run. Dolphin 4.0 was purposefully released with both D3D9 and Windows XP support.

Even though other emulators haven't dropped Windows XP support, it's very likely that if they did, they could gain the same benefits of Dolphin. To them it's not worth it yet, but at a certain point it will be, and more of your favorite programs will no longer run on your computer. Not because your computer is slow, but because your Operating System is outdated and difficult to maintain support for in newer IDEs.

[Shonumi]

Windows XP is effectively no longer supported by Dolphin. It's as simple as that. If you want to play Dolphin, you're free to use an older revision or upgrade your OS.

Closed.