Anti-Ultimate Wrote:And even if you overclock it, the performance gain isn't that much.
I disagree with this. I've seen plenty of applications gain a significant speedup from it. It just depends on the applications cache usage.
kinkinkijkin Wrote:Still stands that the series is good for overclocking, even without an unlocked multiplier.
The properties of a statistical outlier don't really say much about the overall curve. Just because your chip overclocks well doesn't mean they all do. So this logic doesn't really work. That doesn't necessarily mean that your conclusion is wrong however, just that your logic for reaching it is wrong.
admin89 Wrote:This is explained in the forum by @NaturalViolence . So i leave it to him if he bother to explain it to you
Where is it explained by me?
I would really like people to stop assuming they know what I think about something unless they have a quote where I actually said it. Because half the time they're wrong and I don't end up agreeing with them.
Athlon II is just a brand name for "low end alternative to phenom II" used by amd for a wide range of different chips with vastly different properties. Some of which, especially the black edition models, do overclock quite well. Some of them are literally just phenom IIs (as in the exact same physical chips) with certain cores and/or the L3 cache disabled. I do however agree that in his particular case it had more to do with luck as his chip is exhibiting electrical/thermal properties far better than what is typical for that particular model.
In addition to that I would like to ask both sides of this "debate" what you consider to be a "good overclock"? How do you quantify that? Is 20% good? 30%? 40%? Is good measured by percent or by frequency increase? How does performance and power scaling factor into what is a good chip for overclocking?
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