Will this laptop be able to run anything?

daaceking · 10-19-2012, 07:32 AM **#41**

In that case, ban me. My knowledge and experience is wasted.

I cant just print screen, it would have to be a video. One screenshot doesn't prove anything

**NaturalViolence** · (This post was last modified: 10-19-2012, 08:44 AM by NaturalViolence.)

If you feel that way then use dolphins or fraps framelogging capabilities. Both have the ability to record framerates without recording video. However without visual evidence it's pretty hard to make your case so I would do this + screenshots if I were you.

Screenshots do prove something though. If both are taken with the same revision, settings, game, OS, etc. and in the same spot and one system is producing much better performance (say 50% better) than you can bet that that system is faster. You wouldn't be able to produce such a wide gap in performance between the two without gimping the system in such a way where video results would also be affected. Quite frankly video isn't much more reliable and in many cases it's actually less reliable due to the performance hit of the recording software. You can also take multiple screenshots in different spots to further solidify your evidence.

**Starscream** · 10-19-2012, 08:47 AM **#43**

Obviously there is no way a P4 would outperform a core 2 duo and any attempt to claim otherwise is futile.

**NaturalViolence** · 10-19-2012, 08:49 AM **#44**

Quote:Obviously there is no way a P4 would outperform a core 2 duo and any attempt to claim otherwise is futile.

If the clock rate and cache size gap are wide enough it could theoretically happen.

There is no harm in letting him try to prove himself right.

daaceking · (This post was last modified: 10-19-2012, 10:33 PM by daaceking.)

Ok, I concede defeat but hear me out. I cant prove it because the p4 isn't doing so well under dolphin, even though all I need were the fps vps and speed.

I have 3 systems which I have compared. Pj64.

P4 northwood 3.06 (no hyperthreading)
Ati mobility radeon 9700 64mb VRAM.

Core 2 quad q8200 2.33
Powercolor ati hd4850

i7 2760qm 2.4-3.5
Nvidia gtx 580m

The quad and p4 are 720p at 5:4 and 16:10 while the i7 is at 1080 16:9.

The tests show that the p4 and quad run at similar speeds (perfect dark pal). By playing it and seeing the performance.

The p4 is under 60-80% CPU load

The quad I don't know because of 4 cores.

So the CPUs aren't the issue, is it the gpus? No because the quad is same with a much powerful card.

Is it pj64? No because the i7 annihilates the other two. Stuttering only very slightly.

So what is the issue?

edit, also, no$gba is single core [i think] but i believe that is faster on the quad so, yeah. i mean, i'm sure core 2 quad has advances that make a single core better in the majority of software, but i don't think all. regardless if i made that assumption

edit2, i should probably mention the p4 came back from the repair centre after messing up the motherboard [which helped fund my i7] but i basically had to dismantle it all and find another motherboard etc. it's sort of ok now, but i don't really remember it being like this in terms of emulation. it probably was the same before

10-20-2012, 02:26 AM **#46**

(10-18-2012, 04:36 PM)DefenderX Wrote: I'm still sceptical.

@OP: If you have the Ultrabook, can you post some benchmarks and a experience report? (temps, etc.)

No, I don't have it yet. It's the ASUS Taichi, it's not even released yet.

**DefenderX** · 10-20-2012, 03:44 AM **#47**

Well, okay, thanks for this information.

**NaturalViolence** · 10-20-2012, 06:05 AM **#48**

Quote:Ok, I concede defeat but hear me out. I cant prove it because the p4 isn't doing so well under dolphin, even though all I need were the fps vps and speed.

Yeah. BECAUSE IT'S SLOW.

Quote:I have 3 systems which I have compared. Pj64.

P4 northwood 3.06 (no hyperthreading)
Ati mobility radeon 9700 64mb VRAM.

Core 2 quad q8200 2.33
Powercolor ati hd4850

i7 2760qm 2.4-3.5
Nvidia gtx 580m

Quote:The quad and p4 are 720p at 5:4 and 16:10 while the i7 is at 1080 16:9.

If you're doing a comparison benchmark they should all be running at the same settings, in this case 480p. That's just common sense.

Quote:The tests show that the p4 and quad run at similar speeds (perfect dark pal). By playing it and seeing the performance.

What tests?
What did you do?
What were the results?
Are you going to give me anything to work with here?

Quote:The p4 is under 60-80% CPU load

Quote:The quad I don't know because of 4 cores.

Just open task manager. If you need single core load than look at the pj64.exe process load.

Quote:So the CPUs aren't the issue, is it the gpus?

How did you establish that?
What was the test?
What were the results?

Not only are you not giving me any proof. You're not giving me any data at all.

Quote:edit, also, no$gba is single core [i think] but i believe that is faster on the quad so, yeah. i mean, i'm sure core 2 quad has advances that make a single core better in the majority of software, but i don't think all. regardless if i made that assumption

It's always faster. The pentium 4 will do better against it in single threaded applications but the core 2 quad will still kick it's ass.