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Will this graphics card suffice
08-13-2013, 03:00 PM (This post was last modified: 08-13-2013, 03:01 PM by NaturalViolence.)
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omega_rugal Wrote:i know but if he wants to emulate GC/Wii he needs a new PC anyway.

And I said he should. I was just answering the question that I figured you were asking when you said "Why PCI?". As in "why is he buying a PCI card?". It may not be a highly rationale reason but that's the reason why he was going to do it (before we thankfully persuaded him against it).
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08-14-2013, 12:26 PM
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(08-13-2013, 02:32 PM)omega_rugal Wrote:
Quote:Because his motherboard is likely so old that it doesn't have any pci-e slots

i know but if he wants to emulate GC/Wii he needs a new PC anyway.
ok i can understand the whole "he needs a new pc" thing but heres the thing the real base to a pc is the mobo, cpu, gpu, and power supply(which i have tons of) i dont need to go and buy one of those shitty over priced bundles or laptops from bestbuy or conns or frys electronics i can go get a mobo and an apu and be done
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08-14-2013, 12:32 PM
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08-14-2013, 01:23 PM (This post was last modified: 08-14-2013, 01:24 PM by NaturalViolence.)
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acmaster Wrote:ok i can understand the whole "he needs a new pc" thing but heres the thing the real base to a pc is the mobo, cpu, gpu, and power supply(which i have tons of) i dont need to go and buy one of those shitty over priced bundles or laptops from bestbuy or conns or frys electronics i can go get a mobo and an apu and be done

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

At the bare minimum he needs new ram, mobo, cpu, psu, and gpu. He probably needs a new HDD too. Considering how old the rest of his hardware is I think it's safe to assume that he's still using an IDE HDD.

If he wants to use an ODD he'll need to buy a new SATA model.

So in other words the only thing he might be able to reuse is the case. In other words he needs a new PC. Throwing a mobo and apu in there isn't going to work. His hardware is just too old. Now whether he wants to buy a prebuilt system or build it himself is entirely up to him but either way he needs a completely new system from top to bottom.
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08-15-2013, 10:25 PM (This post was last modified: 08-15-2013, 10:30 PM by Edwii.)
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(08-14-2013, 12:26 PM)acmaster Wrote: ok i can understand the whole "he needs a new pc" thing but heres the thing the real base to a pc is the mobo, cpu, gpu, and power supply(which i have tons of) i dont need to go and buy one of those shitty over priced bundles or laptops from bestbuy or conns or frys electronics i can go get a mobo and an apu and be done
If your saying you already have a ton of hardware sitting around, It's going to need to be much newer, and of higher quality then anything of the 6600 era.
People here are saying that the entire generation of hardware you have mentioned is completely unrealistic for running Dolphin.
You will have to put together components that are much much newer/better then that 6600 generation.
To give you an idea, If you were starting from scratch(give or take an old pc case), I would feel spending $700-$800 at a minimum with modern retail components would be enough to have level of some fun with the Dolphin.

Emulating the GC/wii requires a good chunk of above average/relatively modern hardware to make it worth while, if that isnt for you then just buy a wii.

There are only two good reason anyone would want to emulate gc/wii games on a PC:
1. You want to do something with GC/wii games that you can't do on the default systems. (enhance graphics, use cheats, mods, etc)
2. You already have good enough hardware and don't need to spend money on a gc/wii.
If neither of those reasons fit you, then just buy a wii, its much simpler and cheaper. Even if you want to pirate games it will be easier going about it on a wii.

If you want to emulate GC/wii games for the first reason then you are going to need up to date components. There is no real cutting corners to save money if you truly want to emulate the wii.
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08-16-2013, 08:06 AM
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Edwii Wrote:If your saying you already have a ton of hardware sitting around, It's going to need to be much newer, and of higher quality then anything of the 6600 era.
People here are saying that the entire generation of hardware you have mentioned is completely unrealistic for running Dolphin.
You will have to put together components that are much much newer/better then that 6600 generation.
To give you an idea, If you were starting from scratch(give or take an old pc case), I would feel spending $700-$800 at a minimum with modern retail components would be enough to have level of some fun with the Dolphin.

I think you misinterpreted his post. He's saying that you don't need to buy a whole new system. You can just replace the cpu, gpu, and motherboard for fairly cheap since those are the "base" components (components that actually affect performance). And just reuse whatever else you have lying around. He knows that old CPUs/GPUs are not good enough. He's just telling him to upgrade in a more cost efficient manner.

And in most cases he's right. In this particular case though the OPs hardware is so old that he can't do that.

He's likely using a IDE HDD and ODD. Modern motherboards don't support IDE anymore so he will need to replace them with SATA drives.
He's likely using DDR RAM (maybe DDR2). Modern motherboards use DDR3 RAM so he will need new RAM.
He's likely using an old PSU that is barely still functioning and has a low wattage rating from the days when PCs didn't need >200 watts. Thus he will need a stronger PSU to power a modern system.

Thus he can't really save any money by reusing anything. Most people can just get away with upgrading the cpu, mobo, and gpu. But not in this case.
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