Will AMD FX-8300 and AMD RX560 be enough to run GameCube and Wii games smoothly?

[mstreurman]

(03-23-2018, 09:43 PM)extherian Wrote: For the record, I use an i5 7600 with a GTX 1050 Ti and have had no problems running The Last Story at 1080p. That should give you an idea of how modern CPUs will perform with this game.

running it with a Pentium G4560 + GTX 780, also no issue.

[Nintendo Maniac 64]

I'd like to mention that, at least CPU-wise, the cheaper Ryzen 2200G really shouldn't be any slower than a 2400G in Dolphin.

[MikroTik]

(03-23-2018, 09:43 PM)extherian Wrote: For the record, I use an i5 7600 with a GTX 1050 Ti and have had no problems running The Last Story at 1080p. That should give you an idea of how modern CPUs will perform with this game.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i5-7600-vs-AMD-FX-8300-Eight-Core-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-2400G/2920vs1825vs3183 reveals that i5-7600's individual cores are more powerful than those of FX-8300 and Ryzen 5 2400G.

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1050-Ti-vs-AMD-RX-560/3649vs3926 says GTX 1050 Ti is 24% faster than AMD RX 560.

[MikroTik]

(03-24-2018, 06:46 AM)mstreurman Wrote: running it with a Pentium G4560 + GTX 780, also no issue.

(03-24-2018, 08:41 AM)Nintendo Maniac 64 Wrote: I'd like to mention that, at least CPU-wise, the cheaper Ryzen 2200G really shouldn't be any slower than a 2400G in Dolphin.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-Pentium-G4560-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-2400G-vs-Intel-i5-7600/2925vs3183vs2920 says Ryzen 5 2400G has lower single thread rating than Intel Core i5-7600 and Intel Pentium G4560. As long as a CPU has two or more cores, single thread performance is important. http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-780-vs-AMD-RX-560/2164vs3926 says GTX 780 is 94% faster than AMD RX 560.

According to https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-2400G-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1800X/3183vs3000vs2966, among Ryzen 5 2400G, Ryzen 5 1600X, and Ryzen 7 1800X,
Ryzen 5 1600X has the best single thread performance, but Ryzen 5 2400G is currently the best deal for near-future gaming needs.

However, to obtain an intel CPU or a Ryzen CPU, I need to build a new machine. I don't want to spend that much money just to play more games when I can still play a lot of games with my current machine.
An upgrade has to be about more than gaming to justify expenditure of money. I still need to flesh out system requirements for my other tasks.
I don't see a compelling upgrade path from FX-8300 and HD6450 for now.

[Nintendo Maniac 64]

The only single-threaded performance difference between a Ryzen 2200G and 2400G would be its stock clockrate as they are architecturally identical down to even the amount of cache used.

Same thing goes for 1000-series Ryzen CPUs which also share an identical CPU architecture, though the 1200, 1300x, and 1400 have 8MB L3 while all the other 1000-series Ryzen CPUs have 16MB L3 cache.


But the thing is about these differences in clockrate is that all Ryzen CPUs are multiplier unlocked as long as you don't use an A_20 motherboard.

[MikroTik]

(03-24-2018, 11:55 AM)Nintendo Maniac 64 Wrote: The only single-threaded performance difference between a Ryzen 2200G and 2400G would be its stock clockrate as they are architecturally identical down to even the amount of cache used.

Same thing goes for 1000-series Ryzen CPUs which also share an identical CPU architecture, though the 1200, 1300x, and 1400 have 8MB L3 while all the other 1000-series Ryzen CPUs have 16MB L3 cache.


But the thing is about these differences in clockrate is that all Ryzen CPUs are multiplier unlocked as long as you don't use an A_20 motherboard.

Are you saying that I should buy a cheaper variant of a CPU and overclock it when I buy a CPU?

However, Ryzen 5 2200G has RX Vega 8 while Ryzen 5 2400G has RX Vega 11. This is not the same.

[Nintendo Maniac 64]

The term "single-threaded performance" only refers to CPU performance, not GPU performance.

[TKSilver]

(03-24-2018, 02:56 PM)MikroTik Wrote: Are you saying that I should buy a cheaper variant of a CPU and overclock it when I buy a CPU?

If you are someone who is comfortable with overclocking then for every ryzen product so far... yes buy the cheapest variant of the processor you want.

There are some special cases like a slight difference in TDP on the 8 core chips and the lowest 4 core (8 thread) chip has less cache so get the one up from it. But generally you just get a better performance per dollar ratio by buying the cheaper processor.