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Wii U Twilight Princess HD Texture Rip pack for dolphin
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Wii U Twilight Princess HD Texture Rip pack for dolphin
02-26-2016, 12:11 AM
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Are there people would be interested in seeing the Textures ripped from the Wii U game and made into a texture pack for use with Wii and Gamecube versions of the game?
My understanding is that people are already capable of ripping Wii U discs and exploring the contents, which is unlikely to be drastically different from the original versions of the game, so it shouldn't be too hard.

The Wii U version does have significantly more detailed textures than the standard version as can be seen in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R9jkD-w1Dk

My impression of the custom HD texture packs so far is that there's a slight lack of coherence to the textures, but the shader mods and other graphical hacks might still be useful. 
Also, the original and HD Nintendo textures are probably both taken from the same source, whereas custom packs can look completely different to the original.

This would mean Wii players can play with the right-handed orientation of the world and motion control, which AFAIK aren't available on the Wii U version, and also in 4K, 3D or VR!

I have been thinking about this for a while, and as the game is released in just a few weeks I wanted to put the idea out there to see if there is an appetite for it.

(I wanted to post this in the HD texture pack forum, but I both lack the post count and wouldn't be allowed based on those forum rules as I don't have anything to download or render samples yet)
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02-26-2016, 12:42 AM
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(02-26-2016, 12:11 AM)Nintynuts Wrote: Are there people would be interested in seeing the Textures ripped from the Wii U game and made into a texture pack for use with Wii and Gamecube versions of the game?
My understanding is that people are already capable of ripping Wii U discs and exploring the contents, which is unlikely to be drastically different from the original versions of the game, so it shouldn't be too hard.

The Wii U version does have significantly more detailed textures than the standard version as can be seen in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R9jkD-w1Dk

My impression of the custom HD texture packs so far is that there's a slight lack of coherence to the textures, but the shader mods and other graphical hacks might still be useful. 
Also, the original and HD Nintendo textures are probably both taken from the same source, whereas custom packs can look completely different to the original.

This would mean Wii players can play with the right-handed orientation of the world and motion control, which AFAIK aren't available on the Wii U version, and also in 4K, 3D or VR!

I have been thinking about this for a while, and as the game is released in just a few weeks I wanted to put the idea out there to see if there is an appetite for it.

(I wanted to post this in the HD texture pack forum, but I both lack the post count and wouldn't be allowed based on those forum rules as I don't have anything to download or render samples yet)
lol a buddy of mine had the same idea. We can take the wiiu pack make it better....stronger....we have the technology.
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02-26-2016, 11:58 PM (This post was last modified: 02-27-2016, 12:00 AM by DrHouse64.)
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(02-26-2016, 12:11 AM)Nintynuts Wrote: Also, the original and HD Nintendo textures are probably both taken from the same source
If you look carefully the trailers/gamplay videos, some textures (a few, but some) have been redone.

Yes, the idea to extract TPHD textures to apply them as a texture pack on Dolphin is interesting. Smile
Even if, personally, I'm still more exited for the HD project mod. The lack of coherence between textures is not that huge, it looks incredible.

Is this legal? I mean, technically, original textures are copyrighted content. You're allowed to dump TPHD textures, adapt them for Dolphin for your personal use, but not share them over the internet, right?
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02-27-2016, 12:00 AM
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(02-26-2016, 11:58 PM)DrHouse64 Wrote: Is this legal? I mean, technically, original textures are copyrighted content.

Distributing the textures would be illegal. If you want to do it legally, you could distribute a program that extracts the textures from a user-provided TP HD disc image and saves the textures in the format Dolphin uses.
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02-27-2016, 12:35 AM (This post was last modified: 02-27-2016, 12:42 AM by Nintynuts. Edit Reason: acknowledge previous post )
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(02-26-2016, 11:58 PM)DrHouse64 Wrote: If you look carefully the trailers/gameplay videos, some textures (a few, but some) have been redone.

Yes, the idea to extract TPHD textures to apply them as a texture pack on Dolphin is interesting. Smile
Even if, personally, I'm still more exited for the HD project mod. The lack of coherence between textures is not that huge, it looks incredible.

Is this legal? I mean, technically, original textures are copyrighted content. You're allowed to dump TPHD textures, adapt them for Dolphin for your personal use, but not share them over the internet, right?

Yes, my understanding is that if you own the HD version and the standard (Wii/GC) version then it's OK to use the textures of one in the other. As with ROMs/ISOs ripped by release groups, they share them, but you shouldn't download unless you own a physical copy, so I would have thought sharing them online is OK (as not everyone can rip themselves), as long as it's released under the condition you own the original game. But maybe not through the dolphin forums. 

There are a number of clauses in the UK copyright law (I think it's the same in most places) that permit use for creative expression and non-commercial use, and it's not like the pack will be sold and the textures alone are not equivalent to the total game - the Wii U version has new features that means it doesn't undermine sales. That's the point of copyright, to prevent unauthorised commercial gain from another party's work and commercial damage from lost sales. I'm not an expert though.

Maybe it would mean we needed to release a tool that generates the pack from the ISO rather than the texture pack itself?

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JosJuice Wrote:Distributing the textures would be illegal. If you want to do it legally, you could distribute a program that extracts the textures from a user-provided TP HD disc image and saves the textures in the format Dolphin uses.
^this guy seems to agree^
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02-27-2016, 12:51 AM (This post was last modified: 02-27-2016, 02:27 AM by Nintynuts.)
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(02-27-2016, 12:00 AM)JosJuice Wrote: Distributing the textures would be illegal. If you want to do it legally, you could distribute a program that extracts the textures from a user-provided TP HD disc image and saves the textures in the format Dolphin uses.

Just noticed you're on 1337 posts, lol. I don't expect it will last long.

Side note: Over 100 views and only 4 votes? Bit disappointed... c'mon guys!
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