Wii U: Present & Future

[Shonumi]

(06-05-2012, 02:23 AM)Garteal Wrote: Great game! You'll really like it if you liked Symphonia.

I know I'm on my 5th playthrough (3x on PS2, 2x on 3DS). Most played 3DS game so far (70+ hours). I'm kinda a Tales junkie, trying to improve my Japanese enough to play some of the DS ones.

Garteal Wrote:Wha-? How come? I heard it's a pretty good RPG franchise.

Eh, I'm just turned off by the series. Gameplay can be good, but if the art and story don't appeal to me, then I just can't get into it.

Garteal Wrote:Sure, do post it when you found it.

It's somewhere in my library/closet. I'll have to dig it out, maybe scan it too if my scanner feels like being nice. At any rate, I'll try to keep some of the stuff I post more Wii U related, kinda just talking about whatever now.

EDIT: Alright, found it. I'll scan it later after work. It has a nice graph detailing console launch prices adjusted for inflation (circa 2011 anyway). Most launches have kept somewhere between $230-370 when adjusted for inflation, others are pretty high (NES $700+, 3DO $900+, PS3 $540). Game prices have been more stable around $60 adjust for inflation, at least ever since the Genesis/SNES days. The article's called "Gaming By The Numbers" by David Thomas for EGM 243 if you can't wait until I post a scan.

[NaturalViolence]

Quote:A lot of people speculate it will cost around $300. Would you pay this much for it?

Only if it has enough games that I want. Which won't happen unless they win back 3rd party developers (which so far seems unlikely given the state of their SDK, publishing restrictions, and uncommon features).

[Starscream]

(06-05-2012, 03:27 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote:

Quote:A lot of people speculate it will cost around $300. Would you pay this much for it?

Only if it has enough games that I want. Which won't happen unless they win back 3rd party developers (which so far seems unlikely given the state of their SDK, publishing restrictions, and uncommon features).

Who bases their Nintendo decision on third-party games? Nintendo's own is more than enough on its own to get a Nintendo console, if you're in the market for one.

[Garteal]

SS Wrote:Who bases their Nintendo decision on third-party games? Nintendo's own is more than enough on its own to get a Nintendo console, if you're in the market for one.

THIS!

Im disappointed NV.
Nintendo already has a lot of third party developers coming back to it.
There's nothing wrong with the SDK, other than there's some devs that are too lazy to learn how to use it.

[NaturalViolence]

Quote:Who bases their Nintendo decision on third-party games? Nintendo's own is more than enough on its own to get a Nintendo console, if you're in the market for one.

More than enough? Not even close. The wii and GC both had a fraction of the number of games worth playing that their competitors had.

I'm not going to spend $300 on a console that only gives me a few good exclusives.

Quote:Nintendo already has a lot of third party developers coming back to it.

For now. Let's see if that lasts once microsoft and sony release their next consoles. And I'm not sure I would call it "a lot" considering it's still only a small fraction of what is being released on the xbox360 and ps3 over the next year.

Quote:There's nothing wrong with the SDK, other than there's some devs that are too lazy to learn how to use it.

I disagree but I suppose you could be one of the few developers on the planet that actually likes it.

[Starscream]

(06-05-2012, 03:56 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote:

Quote:Who bases their Nintendo decision on third-party games? Nintendo's own is more than enough on its own to get a Nintendo console, if you're in the market for one.

More than enough? Not even close. The wii and GC both had a fraction of the number of games worth playing that their competitors had.

Mario, Zelda and Metroid are worth more than any other console can ever come up with. That's why you buy a Nintendo console. Nintendo first-party games are better than any third-party games they can ever hope for. You should know this already. Not to mention Smash Brothers, Kirby, Wario, DK, Yoshi, Sonic and other great characters/games. Third-party games are a plus, but not a deal breaker.

[mbc07]

Wondering if I could see some Zelda related stuff to Wii U...

[Garteal]

NV Wrote:I disagree but I suppose you could be one of the few developers on the planet that actually likes it.

Disagree? You don't even know anything about the SDK, and you've come to a conclusion.

Gearbox seems to really like it.

NV Wrote:For now. Let's see if that lasts once microsoft and sony release their next consoles. And I'm not sure I would call it "a lot" considering it's still only a small fraction of what is being released on the xbox360 and ps3 over the next year.

They won't release their consoles for a while, so the Wii U will be able to gather third-party devs in these years.
Don't forget that there are developers working on games behind the scene. Think Monolith, XSEED, etc.

SS Wrote:Nintendo first-party games are better than any third-party games they can ever hope for.

I disagree. There are third-party games which are undoubtedly better than first-party games. One example being Xenoblade. I've never had so much fun in a game before.

Jhonn Wrote:Wondering if I could see some Zelda related stuff to Wii U...

Not for a while... The best thing you can do is watch the tech demo over and over.

[Starscream]

(06-05-2012, 04:20 AM)Garteal Wrote: I disagree. There are third-party games which are undoubtedly better than first-party games. One example being Xenoblade. I've never had so much fun in a game before.

Are you saying you prefer to play Xenoblade over a Mario or Zelda game? If you would, that's great. But you probably wouldn't buy a console just for Xenoblade, but you probably would just for Mario or Zelda.

[Gir]

I'll wait till Dolphin Emulates it