Wii Games Run Terrible on Pocophone F1

[Greengem]

On my new Pocophone I decided to get Dolphin going and Windwaker runs just fine, but Wii games are a struggle. I've seen videos of the Galaxy S9 running some Wii games at full 60 fps, and it has the same Snapdragon 845 chip that mine has, but I only manage 15ish fps.
How do I fix this?

[Nintonito]

(12-30-2018, 08:43 AM)Greengem Wrote: On my new Pocophone I decided to get Dolphin going and Windwaker runs just fine, but Wii games are a struggle. I've seen videos of the Galaxy S9 running some Wii games at full 60 fps, and it has the same Snapdragon 845 chip that mine has, but I only manage 15ish fps.
How do I fix this?

Update your device regularly, but more importantly there is no guarantee of good performance. A lot of hacks and short cuts can be applied to make things faster at the expense of emulation quality. Watching videos on YouTube may not give an accurate idea of the experience you could get

[jamster]

(12-30-2018, 08:43 AM)Greengem Wrote: On my new Pocophone I decided to get Dolphin going and Windwaker runs just fine, but Wii games are a struggle.  I've seen videos of the Galaxy S9 running some Wii games at full 60 fps, and it has the same Snapdragon 845 chip that mine has, but I only manage 15ish fps.
How do I fix this?

Hi there

I have done quite a bit of testing on my Poco F1 and Dolphin.

Android 8.1 roms seem to work best due to Vulkan working correctly, its broken on Android 9 based roms. The best 8.1 MIUI rom I found is 9.6.25.0 which was less prone to slow down in Vulkan and ran mostly 50 - 60 fps in Mario Kart Wii 2 player which is very demanding.


For Android 9, I found most ROMS perform similarly as far as I could tell as they all have the same GPU revisions:

Android 9 - Open GL V324 / Vulkan 1.1.66 (broken Vulkan in Dolphin)
Android 8.1 - Open GL V300 / Vulkan 1.0.66
Android 8.1 (older roms e.g. 9.6.25) - Open GL v283 / Vulkan 1.0.61

I use Android 9 and most games and emulators run very well, but unfortunately Wii emulation on Open GL just isn't as good as it was on Vulkan. 

I use these tips to get the best out of it:

Extreme Kernel V4 - allows overclocking of CPU to 3.4 GHZ and GPU to 833 Mhz (note this is removed from other versions, only V4 has it) - https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/development/kernel-extremerevolt-kernel-v1-poco-f1-t3847319

Remove software thermal limits (it keeps hardware limits) - https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/themes/chrysalis-thermals-performance-charging-t3883324 

MMJ builds get a few more FPS than the main build, roughly 25% increase.

In Dolphin.ini change SyncOnSkipIdle to True, this makes a big difference but may breaks some games

I did find a ROM / Dolphin Version / Setting I don't know which were Open GL ran as good as Vulkan did if not better on Mario Kart Wii 2 player which is my performance benchmark but alas I've never found that performance again on Open GL having testing lots of version of ROMS, Dophin and config.

[ganon]

@jamster do you get that rectangle bug on top left of screen in mario kart wii?

[jamster]

(12-31-2018, 06:44 AM)ganon Wrote: @jamster do you get that rectangle bug on top left of screen in mario kart wii?

Yes, but I only play 2 player in which it doesn't appear. 

As far as I know, there is no way to remove it on Android.

[stizzo]

(12-31-2018, 05:03 AM)jamster Wrote: Hi there

Extreme Kernel V4 - allows overclocking of CPU to 3.4 GHZ and GPU to 833 Mhz (note this is removed from other versions, only V4 has it) - https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/development/kernel-extremerevolt-kernel-v1-poco-f1-t3847319

Remove software thermal limits (it keeps hardware limits) - https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/themes/chrysalis-thermals-performance-charging-t3883324 

Read this:

Quote:edit: jesus christ wtf it gets up to like 70*c
restarted phone with module off poco brought up a while box,
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overheating
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settings will turn off wifi gps and data

maybe you can make a temperature limit just a slight bump up from stock


Edit2: have to delete module and reinstall the system rom because apparently it doesn't stop after its deleted in magisk

Pubg was overheating the phone to 60'c

And this:

Quote:This indeed is dangerous and you should only use this if you are ready to risk your phone (or your house in some cases).

1. Disabling throttle is not the best option.
Yes, it does improve gaming performance a lot and I have my throttling disabled as well, but your CPU does reach above 90c in some cases and will shut off / discharge the phone very quickly above the mentioned temperature. I went from 100% to 30% in less than an hour on max load both CPU and GPU.

2. Overnight charging - deadly.
I have disabled my thermal (as I said earlier) and charged my phone under my pillow overnight (many people do that). I woke up 3 hours after falling asleep and my phones battery was at 54C. The battery was NEAR explosion, destruction temperature which is 57+ on most lithium batteries. If I did not somehow wake up earlier I probably would of lost my phone if not my house or life.

3. Battery life.
Charging at max speed from 0 to 100% will ruin your battery very fast compared to charging with proper kernel limits designed for the charging IC, battery.

Anyway, if you want to use this, I suggest using cool tool or some overlay, to monitor both CPU, GPU and battery temps while gaming or performing heavy tasks.

For all: if you do not want to play with an ornament, avoid certain crap.

[degasus]

*Magic editing fairy dust*

Please do not recormend custom builds. This one ships with risky default settings, which leads to random crashes. As far as I know, there has been no performance optimization in this custom build, but to randomly merge as much pull requests as possible. But there is no open pull request for any performance bottlenecks on mobiles...
So in the end, they ship broken default settings to get a higher FPS in the first minutes, but we'll get the support overhead for broken features many minutes later.

[Helios]

Oops. Hand slipped. Terribly clumsy.

[Greengem]

So Android 9 broke it and now I have to basically set my phone on fire for it to run well?

[nonexist]

nah just use this https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/themes/chrysalis-thermals-performance-charging-t3883324

only inactivates the thermal software control, ie, the hardware control will continue to work and prevent your phone from exploding or melting.

this works absolutely fine and I am loving it. Finally the damn throttling is gone.