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WBFS vs ISO
12-22-2012, 02:04 AM
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WII discs ISO files has size >4G (DVD disc size).
WBFS with same game has much less size. For example, 'Ivy The Kiwi?' WBFS file only 84 MB and MArio Party 9 is 796 MB while ISOs has sizes 4.7G.
I tried to use WBFS files in dolphin and it works like with ISOs.
I wanna to change my virtual collection.

What problems has wbfs with dolphin-emu?
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12-22-2012, 02:05 AM
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No problems. Everything runs fine.

Only disadvantage: WBFS only works with newer Dolphin builds.
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12-22-2012, 02:42 AM (This post was last modified: 12-22-2012, 02:44 AM by ulao.)
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some WBFS do not load in dolphin you will get a black screen, but using the wii drive management tool and save to an iso allows it to work. So my assumption is its a dolphin issue. I dont have a big collection of WBFS rips so I can not help much but I will state that some games just do not load in WBFS format. If anyone needs me to do some investigating, open an issue and point me to the issue number.

Yes, I always use the latest builds.

I dont think this is related but I also experimented a bit with cIso files and found the same.
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12-22-2012, 02:45 AM
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I believe generally CISO (i.e. compressed iso) has better space savings than WBFS. If size is you're main concern.
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12-22-2012, 02:47 AM (This post was last modified: 12-22-2012, 03:53 AM by ulao.)
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you think?

Super Paper Mario gcz - 526 306 KB ( WBFS 50 meg less )
Super Paper Mario ciso - 434 208 KB

New Super mario Bros. Wii gcz - 571 502 KB ( WBFS 52 meg less )
New Super mario Bros. Wii ciso - 366 624 KB

There is no question.

cISO will be the "pirates" new treasure. A general iso compressed readable format, sure to attract all kinds of riff-rafts. Still it is kinda neat, who does not want to save space.
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12-22-2012, 02:54 AM
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I can make iso and wbfs but not ciso (no software for Linux).
What about performance?
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12-22-2012, 02:57 AM (This post was last modified: 12-22-2012, 02:58 AM by ulao.)
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Quote:What about performance?
no change. Dolpinh does not do many reads as most of the data is loaded in to memory.


BTW: If you want to save space and maintain compatibility just use the built in compression. WBFS only compresses slightly. GCz work on every game I have tried. Yes ciso is the best choice but as I mentioned its also hit and miss. And yes linux is out at the moment for that.
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12-22-2012, 03:12 AM
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(12-22-2012, 02:57 AM)ulao Wrote: BTW: If you want to save space and maintain compatibility just use the built in compression. WBFS only compresses slightly. GCz work on every game I have tried. Yes ciso is the best choice but as I mentioned its also hit and miss. And yes linux is out at the moment for that.
Mario Party 9 ISO: 4,699,979,776 bytes (4.4 GiB)
Mario Party 9 GCZ: 1,220,286,898 bytes (1.1 GiB)
Mario Party 9 WBFS: 834,666,496 bytes (796 MiB)
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12-22-2012, 03:49 AM (This post was last modified: 12-22-2012, 04:07 AM by ulao.)
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Correct as I pointed out not much to save. I for one would rather be able to play the games, then cross my fingers and hope they work. Unless your just collecting lots of games, then I guess WBFS may save a you space.

here is another example
2.268 gb from a gcz
2.167 gb from the WBFS

-CISO Converter Plus is reported to work on linux. Dont see why it would not work for normal isos?
-- I'm not up on the latest info, also not sure what kernal you run and if that matters but Ubuntu supports CISO? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=958127

Not sure if any of this help, just trying to help out.
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12-22-2012, 05:57 AM
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If you're aiming for best compatibility with Dolphin, use GCZ. It doesn't compress as well as the other formats but grants you 100% compatibility with any Dolphin version...
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