VP9/WebM + YouTube = F-Zero GX no longer looks like utter crap

[Nintendo Maniac 64]

(05-16-2014, 12:56 PM)MaJoR Wrote: VP9 can't do that on any system, to my knowledge anyway.

The point is that h.265 can't do that either, therefore the complexity of a codec is very important in the first few years if you're looking to displace the incumbent.. Heck even h.264 was added to flash only in 2007 - that was the very same year that only the first iphone was released, and h.264 was 4 years old at that point.

I'd also like to point out that my sister's 2006 laptop, my father's 2007 laptop, and my family's 2008 netbook all lack h.264 hardware decoding, and the CPU in my sister's laptop (Core Duo T2050) can just play 720p 30fps h.264, and sometimes it'll even have a frame-drop or two if its played through flash rather than a dedicated media player.

[Garteal]

Decided to take a stab at it and this is the best I can get it. Make sure to watch it in 4k with either Flash or the HTML5 player which only allows you to play at 4k with Chrome or Opera.

It's 1080p footage upscaled to 4k, but that's necessary to trigger 4k on YouTube which allows for (much) higher bitrates.

[ExtremeDude2]

Does it work with flash? Or only HTML5

[mbc07]

AFAIK only HTML5...

[Nintendo Maniac 64]

Just an FYI, YouTube only encodes VP9 up to 1080p currently.


And because I was asked to on the Doom9 forum, here are some screenshots. The difference is pretty obvious so you should be able guess for yourself which screenshots are which video format without me telling you. :p

Screenshots A: Image 1 ~ Image 2

Screenshots B: Image 1 ~ Image 2

[CryZENx]

(05-17-2014, 04:14 AM)Garteal Wrote: Decided to take a stab at it and this is the best I can get it. Make sure to watch it in 4k with either Flash or the HTML5 player which only allows you to play at 4k with Chrome or Opera.

It's 1080p footage upscaled to 4k, but that's necessary to trigger 4k on YouTube which allows for (much) higher bitrates.

same here stucking with that quality

@nintendo Maniac 64

nice comparison, second images looks much better and clear, what to do right now to make it better for everyone?

[Nintendo Maniac 64]

(05-17-2014, 08:36 PM)CryZENx Wrote: what to do right now to make it better for everyone?

Currently it's not really known what causes YouTube to encode your video into VP9... It's theorized that it has something to do with the popularity of your YouTube channel. However my own YouTube channel is not popular at all, I just happen to have a few videos that over the years have garnered a slowly accelerating amount of views (100k+) due to placing higher in the search results over time.

[CryZENx]

(05-17-2014, 08:41 PM)Nintendo Maniac 64 Wrote:

(05-17-2014, 08:36 PM)CryZENx Wrote: what to do right now to make it better for everyone?

Currently it's not really known what causes YouTube to encode your video into VP9... It's theorized that it has something to do with the popularity of your YouTube channel. However my own YouTube channel is not popular at all, I just happen to have a few videos that over the years have garnered a slowly accelerating amount of views (100k+) due to placing higher in the search results over time.

loool look what i found... 480p looks better than upscaled 4k res wtf...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCf59fGzOCQ

[Nintendo Maniac 64]

(05-17-2014, 08:43 PM)CryZENx Wrote: loool look what i found... 480p looks better than upscaled 4k res wtf...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCf59fGzOCQ

Congrats, you have now learned that resolution does not equal video quality.

(05-17-2014, 04:14 AM)Garteal Wrote: Decided to take a stab at it and this is the best I can get it.

Also congrats, I believe you are the forth person I've come across on the internet to not realize that F-Zero GX has a built-in widescreen setting; you can find it in "Options" from the main menu.

[Garteal]

(05-17-2014, 08:43 PM)CryZENx Wrote: loool look what i found... 480p looks better than upscaled 4k res wtf...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCf59fGzOCQ

You must be blind. The video I uploaded looks a lot better than that, obviously.

(05-17-2014, 08:50 PM)Nintendo Maniac 64 Wrote: Congrats, you have now learned that resolution does not equal video quality.

It does as I've said above. A higher resolution, in this case 4k will have YouTube encode your video to a higher bitrate one.

Quote:Also congrats, I believe you are the forth person I've come across on the internet to not realize that F-Zero GX has a built-in widescreen setting; you can find it in "Options" from the main menu.

Who cares? That's besides the point here. I had not played this game at all prior to this.