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upgrade cpu or gpu ?
08-30-2014, 04:04 PM (This post was last modified: 08-30-2014, 04:07 PM by RaverX3X.)
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Note the Xenon processors are server grade cpu's over desktop cpu's The biggest advantage of them over i series is the larger L3 cache over i series.. Most server cpu motherboards have more pci lanes then your average desktop board so quad sli is a larger benefit on those cpu's then i series also the ability to address larger memory pools and The ability to use ECC ram. Sense dolphin only leverages 2-3 cores (with lle audio spawned on its own thread.) Your not going to get the same performance as you do not really have a way to leverage a Xenon series cpu off dolphin.

where the main advantages of xenon is when you need 12-24 cores.. not just 8.. If dolphin was able to leverage multi core even multi core in parallel the Pentium anniversary edition and i7 processors would just get destroyed in terms of performance buy it..

really the only advantage you might have if you are running dolphin though a esx server with cpu & gpu passthough where you have dolphin running in a VM (say connected to a steam box with different os's virtualized.
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08-30-2014, 05:50 PM
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(08-30-2014, 04:04 PM)RaverX3X Wrote: where the main advantages of xenon is when you need 12-24 cores.. not just 8.. If dolphin was able to leverage multi core even multi core in parallel the Pentium anniversary edition and i7 processors would just get destroyed in terms of performance buy it..

really the only advantage you might have if you are running dolphin though a esx server with cpu & gpu passthough where you have dolphin running in a VM (say connected to a steam box with different os's virtualized.

If dolphin could use more cores, then yes Xeon would be faster. But that will never happen Sad To split up the 2 (3 with LLE) into more threads would mean you would have to split the emulation of each core into multiple threads. Which then brings in issues of waiting for cores to sync up and a shit load more bugs. It would be way to much work for something that probably wouldn't even work.

As for an ESX server, a multi-chip server with several Xeons in it would meet the requirement for CPU power (assuming its V3 Haswell Xeon), but I'm not sure what the state of virtual GPU power is. It might not have the right baseline requirements to even start Dolpin, let alone display things properly.
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08-31-2014, 03:28 PM (This post was last modified: 08-31-2014, 03:28 PM by RaverX3X.)
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(08-30-2014, 05:50 PM)KHg8m3r Wrote:
(08-30-2014, 04:04 PM)RaverX3X Wrote: where the main advantages of xeon is when you need 12-24 cores.. not just 8.. If dolphin was able to leverage multi core even multi core in parallel the Pentium anniversary edition and i7 processors would just get destroyed in terms of performance buy it..

really the only advantage you might have if you are running dolphin though a esx server with cpu & gpu passthough where you have dolphin running in a VM (say connected to a steam box with different os's virtualized.

If dolphin could use more cores, then yes Xeon would be faster. But that will never happen Sad To split up the 2 (3 with LLE) into more threads would mean you would have to split the emulation of each core into multiple threads. Which then brings in issues of waiting for cores to sync up and a shit load more bugs. It would be way to much work for something that probably wouldn't even work.

As for an ESX server, a multi-chip server with several Xeons in it would meet the requirement for CPU power (assuming its V3 Haswell Xeon), but I'm not sure what the state of virtual GPU power is. It might not have the right baseline requirements to even start Dolpin, let alone display things properly.


it would meet both as esx servers can run in vm with direct to hardware... You can use GPU pass though to run a native gpu in a virtual machine..
It would not even have to be a haswell xeon Most Xeons will preform just as well as there direct clock to clock i7 counterpart the diffrence being as i said larger cache sizes the ability to address larger memory + ecc memory.

If you can get ahold of one cheep enough the xeon extreme version destroys any i7 you would throw at it granted your comparing a 500-600 dollar i7 to a 1200 dollar server chip..

Also note the new 2014 xeon chips might be worth sinking some money into especially with fpga being built directly into the chip Tongue
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