Triforce GameIDs on the wiki

[Zopolis4]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but I need a wiki admin to do this.
Can the GameID's for https://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/index.php?title=Mario_Kart_Arcade_GP and https://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/index.php?title=Mario_Kart_Arcade_GP_2 be removed? They aren't confirmed, as there arent any good dumps of the game at the moment, and the embedded gamecube image has yet to be decrypted without editing data. Those GameID's on the wiki come from versions of the game specifically edited to have those, so we cannot confirm that they exist.

[Zopolis4]

(08-08-2021, 10:15 AM)Zopolis4 Wrote: Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but I need a wiki admin to do this.
Can the GameID's for https://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/index.php?title=Mario_Kart_Arcade_GP and https://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/index.php?title=Mario_Kart_Arcade_GP_2 be removed? They aren't confirmed, as there arent any good dumps of the game at the moment, and the embedded gamecube image has yet to be decrypted without editing data. Those GameID's on the wiki come from versions of the game specifically edited to have those, so we cannot confirm that they exist.

Asking again because it has been confirmed that the games have RELSAB GameID's so it would be good if we could fix the misinformation

[mbc07]

Do you mind sharing your source? I'm a bit skeptical of those games using the RELSAB Game ID as it's a generic ID used on prototype and beta releases...

[Admentus]

(09-06-2021, 04:38 PM)mbc07 Wrote: Do you mind sharing your source? I'm a bit skeptical of those games using the RELSAB Game ID as it's a generic ID used on prototype and beta releases...

The GameID RELS (RELS01) is also used when you extract the .TGC titles from The Legend of Zelda: Collector's Disc. The extracted Majora's Mask title then becomes RELS01.

[mbc07]

(09-06-2021, 05:00 PM)Admentus Wrote: The GameID RELS (RELS01) is also used when you extract the .TGC titles from The Legend of Zelda: Collector's Disc. The extracted Majora's Mask title then becomes RELS01.

That's expected for TGCs since they're not proper disc images (also happens with TGCs from Mario Kart DD Bonus Disc), but now a reportedly good dump from two officially released games using RELSAB as their Game ID? Yeah, I'm skeptical...

[JosJuice]

(09-06-2021, 05:56 PM)mbc07 Wrote: That's expected for TGCs since they're not proper disc images (also happens with TGCs from Mario Kart DD Bonus Disc), but now a reportedly good dump from two officially released games using RELSAB as their Game ID? Yeah, I'm skeptical...

They're not officially released GameCube games, though. While I'm not actually sure how Triforce IDs work, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't work like GameCube ones.

[Zopolis4]

Triforce games have two id's. One is the normal gamecube style GameID, which some games have. The virtua striker and F-Zero AX games have actual GameID's, while the Key of Avalon, Gekkito Pro Yakuu, Firmware Update and Mario kart games have RELSAB as their gameid. The likely reason these games do not have unique gameid's is because the gameid's aren't used anywhere from what i can tell. The second ID is a 4 character one starting with S, located in boot.id. Each game (revisions are bundled) has a unique BootID. I am confident that the gp games do not use the GGPE__ ID's, because those are manually patched in for the sake of Nintendont. Further proof that they are patched: https://github.com/FIX94/triforce-header-patcher https://github.com/FIX94/triforce-nand-iso-extract/blob/master/main.c#L147 .

[mbc07]

Fair enough, now I'm inclined to remove all existing Triforce Game IDs (deleted only Mario Kart GP/GP2 for now). You said Virtua Striker and F-Zero AX has valid Game IDs, do you have a list for them? Those games currently have some IDs on the wiki not listed on the GitHub repositories you've linked to.

Edit: went ahead and split this to a new thread...

[Zopolis4]

GFZJ8P = F-Zero AX
GVSJ8P = Virtua Striker
Those are the only GameID's, GVSJ8P is on all the triforce virtua striker games

[mbc07]

(09-08-2021, 07:35 AM)Zopolis4 Wrote: GFZJ8P = F-Zero AX
GVSJ8P = Virtua Striker
Those are the only GameID's, GVSJ8P is on all the triforce virtua striker games

Of course they would reuse one of the official IDs from the GC version of Virtua Striker 2002, just to complicate things more ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Anyway, I adjusted the IDs on the wiki to reflect that...