To Slow ? But good Hardware...

[JustAtGaming]

(03-20-2016, 10:10 AM)admin89 Wrote: Get a newer CPU , your CPU is way below the Dolphin requirement
Take a look at Dolphin Benchmark , your CPU is slower than the Real Wii
The current i3 6100 is about 3 times as fast as yours
In order to run most games near full speed with an older CPU like Core 2 Quad / Core 2 duo , you will have to overclock it to 3.6GHz or higher (I used to have a system like that)
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Lying is bad , you know

Okay thx for your help guys. I think I am going to try a fast er hdd today i believe you but I cant end the project without at least having tried it.

Also I am going to overclock the CPU but i think there will only be about 3.3 GHz possible for me because I only got a middle class cooler for that socket.

I am going to post the results here maybe its going to help someone

[leolam]

(03-20-2016, 06:43 PM)JustAtGaming Wrote: I think I am going to try a fast er hdd today i believe you but I cant end the project without at least having tried it.

You will get a performance improvement of exactly 0% for Dolphin.

Other than that, switching to a faster HDD will barely improve IO performance. Switching to a SSD will improve it, and will make your OS and applications load faster, but again, that doesn't magically improve CPU performance, so no improvement for Dolphin.

Quote:Also I am going to overclock the CPU but i think there will only be about 3.3 GHz possible for me because I only got a middle class cooler for that socket.
I am going to post the results here maybe its going to help someone

Your CPU is weak and old. You have to push it to high frequencies (like admin89 said, 3.6GHz or higher) if you want to get anything near full speed.

[admin89]

Since you're on Windows 10 , using Direct3d12 will boost up the FPS compared to other backends like OpenGL and Direct3d11
You need to dl the latest Dolphin to use it

[Helios]

Yeah. You're going to be wasting money towards achieving the goal of making dolphin faster if you get a new hard drive. Unless you have the fast DVD read hack on, we emulate the speed of the Wii's drive (Roughly, our timings are a bit off, but mmastrac may fix that). Pretty much any SATA hard drive ever is exponentially faster than the Wii's DVD drive.

You're ignoring the huge problem that is your CPU. Overclocking it will help, but it sure as heck won't solve your problem. As admin89 said, for Dolphin, it's pretty much slower than a real wii. The console we're trying to emulate here. Overclocking will make some of the issues go away but not all.

[JustAtGaming]

(03-20-2016, 07:18 PM)helios747 Wrote: Yeah. You're going to be wasting money towards achieving the goal of making dolphin faster if you get a new hard drive. Unless you have the fast DVD read hack on, we emulate the speed of the Wii's drive (Roughly, our timings are a bit off, but mmastrac may fix that). Pretty much any SATA hard drive ever is exponentially faster than the Wii's DVD drive.

You're ignoring the huge problem that is your CPU. Overclocking it will help, but it sure as heck won't solve your problem. As admin89 said, for Dolphin, it's pretty much slower than a real wii. The console we're trying to emulate here. Overclocking will make some of the issues go away but not all.

I understood that this CPU isnt good anymore. But shouldnt it run Gamecube games ? Or is it even to slow for them ? My framerates are the same with Gamecube or Wii.... Both round about 40 plus minus.

If I get some time this evening I am trying to put in the faster HDD (which was unused and not extra bought for that PC). I believe you that there shouldnt be any differences.

Ah, and I am going to try the newer Version of Dolphin before changing HDD.

[leolam]

Wii games are not always more intensive to emulate than GameCube games.

Quote:Ah, and I am going to try the newer Version of Dolphin before changing HDD.

So, you were not on the latest development build, as suggested in the first reply? That may explain your bad performance, since there have been a lot of performance improvements since 4.0, but you'll still have trouble getting to full speed in intensive games. But I suggest trying that first before anything else. And if it still won't run at full speed, even with DX12, you know what you have to change.

[JustAtGaming]

Here we go

I updated to the newest Version and took DX12 and now I have 60FPS with all Gamecube Games and about 50-60FPS with the most Wii Games in 1080p.

This is a gigantic step for my project Thank you all very much.

But you could still help me. As already said I got two Mainboards here with the same socket but different CPU's and manufacturers.

CPU 1: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 (3.0GHZ, 6MB Cache, 1333MHZ FSB, 2 Cores)

CPU 2: Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300 (2.5GHZ, 4MB Cache, 1333MHZ FSB, 4 Cores)


First Question:
Which CPU should run better ? At the moment the Core 2 Quad is installed.

Second Question:
Will there be big differences if I overclock one of the CPUs ? (I mean, will it affect the FPS more than just 1-2)


Third Question:
Could I change the CPU without setting up windows 10 again... ?



I just wanted to say: Thank you all. I allready was looking for an alternative but now it looks like the project could work.

[Helios]

They're both really old so probably not great. But, assuming you're not doing things in the background to slow those two cores down, the dual core should be somewhat faster due to the higher clock speed. If doing things in the background is preferred (Web browser on the side or something), then the quad core will be preferable.

[JustAtGaming]

(03-21-2016, 01:17 AM)helios747 Wrote: They're both really old so probably not great. But, assuming you're not doing things in the background to slow those two cores down, the dual core should be somewhat faster due to the higher clock speed. If doing things in the background is preferred (Web browser on the side or something), then the quad core will be preferable.

So maybe I should tell you excactly what the PC is suposed to do. Its running Steam Big Picture in Auto Start.
The power switch has been mounted to my bed so I can switch it on easily from it. I got a PS1 USB Adapter which is also mounted on my bed. All the Roms (also n64 SNES etc. ) are managed by a Software called ice so steam gets the icons in big picture. I am not sure if steam big pic uses much CPU while a game is running... So maybe i need to check this out first if you dont have experience with it. So at the moment it runs all GameCube games I tested perfectly without any lag in sound or Video.
Wii games are a little bit different. The frames are quite okay they sometimes drop to 50-55 but usualy are at 60. The annoying thing is the sound which is a little big laggy when the Video frames a little bit. I could life with it but maybe you know a possible solution for this. Is the sound rendered by the CPU ? Is it possible to put More Ressources which need to be done by the CPU on the GPU ?

Tomorrow i will be able to test more stuff but it would be great to Start testing with a couple of fixing ideas.

Thank you very much so far

[dataplays45]

(03-20-2016, 10:10 AM)admin89 Wrote: Lying is bad , you know

If I was lying I wouldnt of spent £50 on wii games.