SP CHAOS THEORY discovered a bug

~~Ethanwinters88~~ · 10-26-2018, 08:00 AM #1

So i ve also noticed that chaos theory crash loading the save states
..could this be fixed guys please?the game run well though but savestates is important as much as the rest of the functions

**Helios** · 10-26-2018, 12:56 PM #2

Probably not.

Use normal saves. We have locked savestates behind a checkbox now for a reason. Don't rely on them.

~~Ethanwinters88~~ · 10-26-2018, 05:11 PM #3

(10-26-2018, 12:56 PM)Helios Wrote: Probably not.

Use normal saves. We have locked savestates behind a checkbox now for a reason. Don't rely on them.

May I ask why cant be fixed?

**Helios** · 10-26-2018, 05:36 PM #4

Looking at the wiki page for the game, it appears to have some sync/timing issues. Wouldn't be surprised if this blows up savestates. Fixing those is quite difficult as it often comes down to "Fix this one game breaks 3 others". (It's also possible the wiki is outdated, this isn't a popular game)

This is why I said probably not and not "no".

In any case, don't rely on savestates. Dolphin will be much more stable that way.

***MayImilae*** · (This post was last modified: 10-26-2018, 05:43 PM by MayImilae.)

Savestates are very hard for Dolphin. On a NES or SNES emulator, savestates are pretty easy - the hardware they are emulating is very simple with little to keep track of, everything is done in software so the emulator has full control, and they don't have to worry about outside factors. But the GameCube and Wii have INSANE complexity by comparison! We have to use hardware acceleration for performance opening us up to API implementation and driver issues (and their updates), we have to worry about fighting operating systems for memory management, a user could antivirus/antimalware snooping on memory and toying with things, on and on. We have a lot of factors to contend with that are outside of our control, any of which could break a savestate! And we certainly aren't cycle accurate, the GC and Wii have literally more possible states than all the particles on the surface of the earth, and deterministic settings suck performance so no one uses them and even then they aren't perfect, etc etc. And that's not even counting that Dolphin is an evolving emulator still and changes to core emulation will break all prior savestates entirely!

Basically, there are a LOT of things that can ruin a savestate in Dolphin. Don't trust them.

**Helios** · 10-26-2018, 05:44 PM #6

What's *really* weird though is that the game doesn't work with SC mode

what the heck? Why

~~Ethanwinters88~~ · 10-26-2018, 05:58 PM #7

Guys..I'm honest. So far I been payi many titles..just to test dolphin build..I never ever had a problem as I'm only using s.states ...this is the only one literally ..but ok..I cant ask for a miracle unfortunately ...thank u anyway guys

Locoviejo · 10-31-2018, 09:59 AM #8

(10-26-2018, 05:58 PM)Ethanwinters88 Wrote: Guys..I'm honest. So far I been payi many titles..just to test dolphin build..I never ever had a problem as I'm only using s.states ...this is the only one literally ..but ok..I cant ask for a miracle unfortunately ...thank u anyway guys

[color=#212121]I've been testing it and savestates work for me[/color]

~~Ethanwinters88~~ · 10-31-2018, 10:06 AM #9

Wich madter are u using? The last apk?

Locoviejo · 10-31-2018, 10:58 AM **#10**

(10-31-2018, 10:06 AM)Ethanwinters88 Wrote: Wich madter are u using? The last apk?

MMJ APK