SOPA

[silveruniverse]

Also, you can also get arrested, taken to court and sent to prison for anything they deem unacceptable regardless of your country or location.

[Vlad]

[LordVador]

Yes of course. Make examples to discourage. Some will pay for the other ones

[Runo]

(12-29-2011, 12:35 AM)DacoTaco Wrote:

(12-28-2011, 11:26 PM)LordVador Wrote: We have a quite similar thing here in France What about you guys?

if youre talking about sopa, the difference is that the main dns server/routing server is located in america. so a law like SOPA could censor -ANYTHING- on the internet even if its not hosted in america

Yeah but if I understand correctly the site would still be avaiable in other countries, the internet providers in US would be forced to block access to this sites, like china..

[DacoTaco]

(12-29-2011, 03:05 AM)Runo Wrote:

(12-29-2011, 12:35 AM)DacoTaco Wrote:

(12-28-2011, 11:26 PM)LordVador Wrote: We have a quite similar thing here in France What about you guys?

if youre talking about sopa, the difference is that the main dns server/routing server is located in america. so a law like SOPA could censor -ANYTHING- on the internet even if its not hosted in america

Yeah but if I understand correctly the site would still be variable in other countries, the internet providers in US would be forced to block access to this sites, like china..

no.

again, the main dns/router servers are in america. remove a dns entry in those dns servers and over time the site wont be accessable trough and url.
block routing to that ip in a high up routing table(which is also in the us) and you can block a site on a world scale. that is the information i got when looking into sopa. i could be wrong and i would love to be proven wrong cause this is madness

[Shonumi]

(12-29-2011, 09:26 AM)DacoTaco Wrote:

(12-29-2011, 03:05 AM)Runo Wrote:

(12-29-2011, 12:35 AM)DacoTaco Wrote:

(12-28-2011, 11:26 PM)LordVador Wrote: We have a quite similar thing here in France What about you guys?

if youre talking about sopa, the difference is that the main dns server/routing server is located in america. so a law like SOPA could censor -ANYTHING- on the internet even if its not hosted in america

Yeah but if I understand correctly the site would still be variable in other countries, the internet providers in US would be forced to block access to this sites, like china..

no.

again, the main dns/router servers are in america. remove a dns entry in those dns servers and over time the site wont be accessable trough and url.
block routing to that ip in a high up routing table(which is also in the us) and you can block a site on a world scale. that is the information i got when looking into sopa. i could be wrong and i would love to be proven wrong cause this is madness

From what I've been reading, ArsTechnica mostly, neither SOPA nor the Senate PROTECT IP actually remove DNS records from DNS servers. It would, however, force American ISPs to basically ignore DNS requests from their customers if they try to look up any blacklisted sites. DNS records only translate website names to IP addresses, so trying to reach sites by their IP address will work, for now... You would also still be able to use foreign DNS servers. Opponents of the legislation say that people might start using those servers if the laws go into effect, and they worry about their reliability (e.g. accuracy, privacy, security, etc).

These proposed laws do seem to overstep American boundaries because they can "sieze" any generic top-level domain names that US registrars control. This basically includes all .com, .net, and (obviously) .us sites; I'm not sure about .org though. Imagine a kid in the UK makes a .com site, but the US decides to take over his domain name. That's were things definitely feel messed up, internationally speaking.

Generally speaking, these laws are abhorrent. I'm hoping that they don't pass. The so called "Big Content" industry needs to adjust to this new millennium.

[Runo]

(12-29-2011, 09:26 AM)DacoTaco Wrote: no.

again, the main dns/router servers are in america. remove a dns entry in those dns servers and over time the site wont be accessable trough and url.
block routing to that ip in a high up routing table(which is also in the us) and you can block a site on a world scale. that is the information i got when looking into sopa. i could be wrong and i would love to be proven wrong cause this is madness

That's ridiculous, they're almost playing God here. Won't other countries say nothing about it? I mean, people rebelling all over the world? Breaking shops? C'mon, I can't believe the entire digital world as we know it is going down and nobody is saying a fucking word! Shit, this can become massive.. I can't even imagine what would happen.

I mean, if I don't like the newest MSN messenger version for example, I have no other choice but to download it from MS website, because there is no more FileServe, Megaupload, 4Shared etc. Also, first thing to go down will be porn sites, governments have tried to destroy that industry that for years. And no more Youtube due to amateur music videos and lyric videos. No youtube, no download sites, no porn, GOOGLE WILL BE USELESS! MAH GOODNESS ITS 2012 THE ARMAGEDDON!!1!!111

[Diddy Kong]

(12-29-2011, 03:05 AM)Runo Wrote:

(12-29-2011, 12:35 AM)DacoTaco Wrote: [quote='LordVador' pid='189795' dateline='1325078761']
We have a quite similar thing here in France What about you guys?

if youre talking about sopa, the difference is that the main dns server/routing server is located in america. so a law like SOPA could censor -ANYTHING- on the internet even if its not hosted in america

Classic America—arbiters of the world.
Submit now and you can still haz cheeseburger..

[JaredHedgehog]

(12-29-2011, 11:25 AM)Diddy Kong Wrote:

(12-29-2011, 03:05 AM)Runo Wrote:

(12-29-2011, 12:35 AM)DacoTaco Wrote: [quote='LordVador' pid='189795' dateline='1325078761']
We have a quite similar thing here in France What about you guys?

if youre talking about sopa, the difference is that the main dns server/routing server is located in america. so a law like SOPA could censor -ANYTHING- on the internet even if its not hosted in america

Classic America—arbiters of the world.
Submit now and you can still haz cheeseburger..

Apparently the old farts in the Senate, House, and the big movie industries think that this is the 1980s still. They're sticking to a dinosaur-like business system, thinking that "I'm American! We can make it (still) with this! Screw all them kids with their fancy COMPUTERS and their INTERNET!" I may be going against my own country on this statement, but I can clearly see that the old geezers will probably have their way. If the SOPA passes, I'll just laugh in our government's face and watch the chaos ensue with the people.

[Starscream]

I really hope they don't ruin our internet. Having said that, if you think about what they're trying to do, they're trying to protect the people who create content so that people buy it instead of downloading it for free. This very forum bans people everyday based on that very concept and everyone supports that, what's the difference?