Simple question about Motion+. Is it supported at all?

[kamyk2000]

I want to play Skyward sword and Sports resort. I have dug through the forums before joining looking for answers on emulating motion+ and have seen that emulating it is not supported.

My very simple questions here are:

If I go buy a Wiimote and motionplus and use bluetooth etc, will I be able to play those games with Dolphin. Yes? No? If not, I won't bother buying the controller.

If the answer is yes, then I'll come back with questions about how to set it up when I need to do that.

If the answer is no then I will either scour the internet for an older unsupported version of Dolphin or sell my game. My sister (another household) has a Wii, but she has less than no interest in Zelda, and wouldn't be remotely inclined to let me borrow her Wii or remotes (and I don't own or want a tv anyway), so I have a game I'm not getting to play and I've already ripped the disc so I can play at home.

Yes buy remotes, or no don't bother - go sell my game?

Edit:Sorry, was frustrated before, and didn't mean to be so blunt and to the point.

For the record, let me add that Dolphin is a great emulator that's given me plenty of use for playing my gamecube games when my gamecube was stolen, and so far except for the issue I posted about, it seems to play everything (GC or Wii) flawlessly.

As useless at it would be for functionality, a simple toggle to make games think a motion+ had been plugged in would enable people to play those games. Those of us using controllers instead of remotes can be very creative when setting up the configs...

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(04-10-2015, 12:33 PM)kamyk2000 Wrote: I want to play Skyward sword and Sports resort.  I have dug through the forums before joining looking for answers on emulating motion+ and have seen that emulating it is not supported.

My very simple questions here are:

If I go buy a Wiimote and motionplus and use bluetooth etc, will I be able to play those games with Dolphin.  Yes?  No?  If not, I won't bother buying the controller.

If the answer is yes, then I'll come back with questions about how to set it up when I need to do that.

If the answer is no then I will either scour the internet for an older unsupported version of Dolphin or sell my game.  My sister (another household) has a Wii, but she has less than no interest in Zelda, and wouldn't be remotely inclined to let me borrow her Wii or remotes (and I don't own or want a tv anyway), so I have a game I'm not getting to play and I've already ripped the disc so I can play at home.

Yes buy remotes, or no don't bother - go sell my game?

Edit:Sorry, was frustrated before, and didn't mean to be so blunt and to the point.

For the record, let me add that Dolphin is a great emulator that's given me plenty of use for playing my gamecube games when my gamecube was stolen, and so far except for the issue I posted about, it seems to play everything (GC or Wii) flawlessly.

As useless at it would be for functionality, a simple toggle to make games think a motion+ had been plugged in would enable people to play those games.  Those of us using controllers instead of remotes can be very creative when setting up the configs...

All the stuff you ask have been answered in the past in the forums or are in the faq. There was an unofficial build that had emulated motion plus but the author packed it with a bunch of irrelevant changes and it was never merged. You can try it if you want, thing is very few people claimed to manage to finish the game with that build, for most it was close to impossible.

[kamyk2000]

Link_to_the_past dateline=' Wrote: All the stuff you ask have been answered in the past in the forums or are in the faq. There was an unofficial build that had emulated motion plus but the author packed it with a bunch of irrelevant changes and it was never merged. You can try it if you want, thing is very few people claimed to manage to finish the game with that build, for most it was close to impossible.

Yes, I read the forums and the FAQ as I stated. The FAQ does not mention Motion+ at all, and the forums talk about it being emulated and then discarded, as I also said I read. What neither says as far as I could find through searching was what I asked. If Motion+ works when using actual hardware remotes. Which I again ask.

[tueidj]

It does work when using a real wiimote.

[kamyk2000]

(04-10-2015, 08:09 PM)tueidj Wrote: It does work when using a real wiimote.

Yay

I wasn't sure because I saw a lot of threads about issues while I was searching the forum, that was one reason I was frustrated. I just don't want to go spend the money on all that hardware and then find out it doesn't work right, that's all.

Sorry for being pissy if I came across that way, I'm just tired and frustrated. I spent 3 days looking online, youtube, other forums, and here trying to find a solution before I posted...

So, just to be certain - Wii hardware (Remote, motion+, nunchuck) all work with Dolphin properly?

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(04-10-2015, 08:23 PM)kamyk2000 Wrote:

(04-10-2015, 08:09 PM)tueidj Wrote: It does work when using a real wiimote.

Yay  

I wasn't sure because I saw a lot of threads about issues while I was searching the forum, that was one reason I was frustrated.  I just don't want to go spend the money on all that hardware and then find out it doesn't work right, that's all.

Sorry for being pissy if I came across that way, I'm just tired and frustrated.  I spent 3 days looking online, youtube, other forums, and here trying to find a solution before I posted...

So, just to be certain - Wii hardware (Remote, motion+, nunchuck) all work with Dolphin properly?

Yes, that is the way i finished it. In the faq you can find info about real wiimote connection with dolphin.

[mbc07]

Here are a quick summary:

* Dolphin works with real wiimotes assuming your computer have bluetooth
* If your wiimote is a Wii Remote Plus, the motion plus technology is already bundled into it. If its an older Wiimote, you can plug the separate Motion Plus accessory. In both cases, Dolphin will detect and games requiring the peripheral will just work
* However, the current model of Wii Remote Plus is the famous -TR one (more details here). If you're using Windows,it'll only work with Toshiba Bluetooth Stack
* Or, since most Motion Plus games requires a sensor bar, you could go buying a Dolphin Bar too. It works pretty good as a sensor bar that you'll need anyway for some games and also just works with -TR wiimotes and Windows...

[kamyk2000]

(04-11-2015, 03:23 PM)Jhonn Wrote: Here are a quick summary:

* Dolphin works with real wiimotes assuming your computer have bluetooth
* If your wiimote is a Wii Remote Plus, the motion plus technology is already bundled into it. If its an older Wiimote, you can plug the separate Motion Plus accessory. In both cases, Dolphin will detect and games requiring the peripheral will just work
* However, the current model of Wii Remote Plus is the famous -TR one (more details here). If you're using Windows,it'll only work with Toshiba Bluetooth Stack
* Or, since most Motion Plus games requires a sensor bar, you could go buying a Dolphin Bar too. It works pretty good as a sensor bar that you'll need anyway for some games and also just works with -TR wiimotes and Windows...

Yes, I was just looking into all of that on Amazon and Best Buy actually My computer does have bluetooth capability btw.

Can I get a consensus on the brands and accessories that work best with the least amount of fiddling? Like you say (and I've seen elsewhere on here) that the latest models require this Toshiba stack thing. What models didn't require special software or considerations? Or should I go with the latest models and fiddle with this Toshiba thing? I'd like to know precisely what brands and models of hardware to look for for the best results.

I was planning on getting a Wiimote with motion plus built in, or a Wiimote with the motion plus addon, a nunchuck, and a sensor bar. If I get a usb sensor bar, will I still need a bluetooth dongle or no? If I do need a bluetooth dongle, what should I get for that as well?

I saw something called "Dolphin bar" on Amazon, and it said it works with Dolphin with no problems, but it also said it doesn't work right with Dolphin 4.02. Am I understanding correctly that using a Dolphin bar eliminates the need for a bluetooth dongle? And if I am going to get something Dolphin specific, what seller should I look for to ensure I'm getting the real thing, and not a knock-off? This is the one I ran across: http://www.amazon.com/TOTALCONSOLE-W010-Wireless-Sensor-DolphinBar/dp/B00HZWEB74/ref=pd_cp_vg_0

Also, is there a wired Dolphin bar? I dislike wireless peripherals because they constantly run out of juice right in the middle of you doing something. I'd get wired Wiimotes if they had them.

Edit:
I see there was a link to a recommended hardware page from the page you linked me to. Looking it over now. I see that The Dolphinbar I found is the same one recommended, but as I said it warns it doesn't work with Dolphiin 4.02, which is the version I have. I see there is a newer version of Dolphin out though. Does Dolphinbar work correctly with version 4.0.5991? If so, I'll just update Dolphin.

I can see there is quite a lot of info I didn't see before answering most of my questions, but I'd still like to get a consensus or what works best if anyone cares to post their experiences and expertise.

[AnyOldName3]

Yes. The DolphinBar works fine with the latest Dev build.

[mbc07]

About brands: only genuine Nintendo Wiimotes are guaranteed to work, fake/3rd party brands are hit or miss (in most cases, miss). And today, your only Nintendo option will be the -TR version of Wii Remote Plus (and probably in a Wii U styled box, but they work fine with Dolphin). The old version (without motion plus integrated) is pretty hard to find and the MotionPlus accessory for it is even harder. Same with the non-TR version of Wii Remote Plus, the first remotes that came with FlingSmash/Zelda Skyward Sword bundles, for example, are sold out everywhere.

In case you get only the Wii Remote Plus to use with your computer's BT dongle, you would need to install Toshiba BT stack and it's shareware (unless your BT dongle is manufactured by Toshiba), expiring in 30 days. Also, Toshiba doesn't sell licenses anymore, so, after your trial ends, the BT stack stops working.

Said that, the best you can do is getting an official Wii Remote Plus from Nintendo and MayFlash Dolphin Bar. Since this bar has its own BT adapter, you won't need to use your computer's BT dongle or Toshiba stack, the setup will be fully plug and play (connect your Dolphin Bar into your computer, sync your remote with the Dolphin Bar, switch it to mode 4 and launch Dolphin, that's all).

And yes, Dolphin Bar doesn't work with 4.0.2 but you shouldn't be using something that old now. The current development builds fully support Dolphin Bar and are waaay faster than current stable version...