Should Intel use Iris Pro in higher end CPUs?

[DatKid20]

I personally would love if they did this as I wouldn't need to use a Dedicated GPU for most games that I play. By the time Skylake comes out I could go full Integrated with a backup GPU with no regrets.

[HeyAlucard]

I wish they would as the HD Graphics series is bad D:

[AnyOldName3]

In an ideal world, I'd have high end chips available with a choice between something basic that's enough to run a desktop if your dedicated GPU dies, but little else, and Iris, as I don't know of many people that need a lot of CPU performance and anything between very little and a lot of GPU performance.

[NaturalViolence]

Wait the R series isn't high end?  The 4770R is basically just a 4670 with iris pro added and a lower base clock to offset the extra power draw of the bigger IGP.  It exists purely to address the concerns that you stated.

Honestly I would never do this even if they offered it at a decent price with an LGA package.  Intel drivers are still garbage and there are no signs of that changing anytime soon.  The control panel is still severely limited.  And the performance still isn't good enough for most gamers that I know.  It's about on par with a GT 640 and significantly increases the cost of the CPU since an MCM implementation is needed (which leads to poor yields).  

If what you're really asking as I suspect is "why don't they offer it in LGA with higher TDPs?" the BGA packaging system just offers too much of an advantage with an MCM this big.  Iris pro relies on an edram chip to keep the IGP from being bandwidth starved which requires an MCM to support.  When aimed at smaller platforms like NUCs and laptops this level of integration has obvious benefits but on a large desktop scale it makes little sense.  So that's the platform that they market it towards (thus the TDP).  Intel has little reason to take valuable production resources away from other chips to try and offer such a chip which very few people would buy at the high price point that they would be forced to offer it at.  Intel also knows that most PCs without graphics cards are OEM builds where LGA doesn't offer much of a benefit.

Things might change a bit if high speed DDR4 prices come down in time for skylake.

[lamedude]

I just want the L4$.

[ExtremeDude2]

yes plz