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Running Dolphin on a Budget
04-06-2013, 12:22 PM
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So, I have a budget of about $250. The only games I want to play using Dolphin are The Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, and Skyward Sword (As you can tell, I'm a Zelda fan and I'm dying to play these games). Currently, this is the build I am looking at (I have just listed the important specs):

Processor: AMD A8-5600K
RAM: 4 GB 1333 MHz
Graphics Card: AMD Radeon HD 7560D (Integrated into the processor Confused )

I would be running Ubuntu Linux (I can't afford a Windows key and prefer Ubuntu anyway).

Overclocking is out of the question as I cannot afford to use anything except the heat sink included with the processor, the power supply probably wouldn't handle it (360W), and I don't think the motherboard is able to do so anyway.

Would this build run these games at a playable speed? Can I gain performance by running a certain version/revision of Dolphin? Can anyone suggest a better build within this budget (I already have a hard drive, 64 GB SSD, it will do)? Thanks!
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04-06-2013, 12:29 PM (This post was last modified: 04-06-2013, 12:32 PM by admin89.)
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Quote:Overclocking is out of the question
-> Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword are out of the question (btw Twilight Princess will not run full speed on Hyrule Field even if you overclock that CPU)
Quote:power supply probably wouldn't handle it (360W)
That PSU is fine , you don't have a graphic card so you will have a lot of room for overclocking
Laptop: (Show Spoiler)
Clevo W230SS : 3200x1800 IPS | i7 4700MQ @ 3.6GHz (Intel XTU + Triple fan mod) | GTX 860M GDDR5 | 128GB Toshiba CFD SSD | 16GB DDR3L 1600MHz
Acer v5-573G : 1080p LED |  i5 4200U @ 2.3GHz | Nvidia GT 750M 4GB | 128GB Toshiba SSD  | 12GB DDR3 1600MHz 
Mini PC :: (Show Spoiler)
G3258 @ 4.6GHz | ELSA GTX 750 | Asrock Z87E ITX | 600W SFX 80+ Gold Silverstone + SG06-LITE | Corsair Vengeance 8GB 2000MHz | Scythe Kozuti + Ao Kaze | 25TB 2.5" Ex HDD (in total) , Zelda Gold Wiimote , LE Wii Classic Controller , Gold LE PS3 DualShock , BlackWidow Chroma ,
Now Playing : Xenoblade Definitive Edition on Yuzu - Switch Emu 

 
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04-06-2013, 12:55 PM
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That APU overclocks fine with the included heatsink, the gpu even more, just don`t go crazy with the overclock, which is the reason most people burn their cpus

but in the other hand...

don`t expect huge speed increase, the overclock vs performance gain ratio in these APUs is rather low

as admin89 says, twlight princess has some serious performance issues with the current dolphin, i haven`t tried skyward sword thought...
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04-06-2013, 01:06 PM
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3.6->4.1GHz without increasing voltage (stock heatsink)
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/2054/13/
Though he may need Windows 7/8 to use AMD Overdrive
Laptop: (Show Spoiler)
Clevo W230SS : 3200x1800 IPS | i7 4700MQ @ 3.6GHz (Intel XTU + Triple fan mod) | GTX 860M GDDR5 | 128GB Toshiba CFD SSD | 16GB DDR3L 1600MHz
Acer v5-573G : 1080p LED |  i5 4200U @ 2.3GHz | Nvidia GT 750M 4GB | 128GB Toshiba SSD  | 12GB DDR3 1600MHz 
Mini PC :: (Show Spoiler)
G3258 @ 4.6GHz | ELSA GTX 750 | Asrock Z87E ITX | 600W SFX 80+ Gold Silverstone + SG06-LITE | Corsair Vengeance 8GB 2000MHz | Scythe Kozuti + Ao Kaze | 25TB 2.5" Ex HDD (in total) , Zelda Gold Wiimote , LE Wii Classic Controller , Gold LE PS3 DualShock , BlackWidow Chroma ,
Now Playing : Xenoblade Definitive Edition on Yuzu - Switch Emu 

 
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04-06-2013, 02:50 PM
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Depends on the model, my llano A8 is not detected by the AMD overdrive, so i overclock it with the BIOS

in the other system (core 2 + radeon 6670), the AMD overdrive does appear in the Catalyst control panel, but only modifies the IGP values.

in all cases i use WINXP 32-bit so i doubt it`s OS dependent.
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04-06-2013, 02:57 PM
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Well , you can use K10stat to overclock (K10stat only work with llano , don't work with trinity) .
Overclocking via Bios is the best method . Software overclocking is meh...
Quote:WINXP 32-bit so i doubt it`s OS dependent.
XP is fine too . However , that OS was too old so i did not list it
Laptop: (Show Spoiler)
Clevo W230SS : 3200x1800 IPS | i7 4700MQ @ 3.6GHz (Intel XTU + Triple fan mod) | GTX 860M GDDR5 | 128GB Toshiba CFD SSD | 16GB DDR3L 1600MHz
Acer v5-573G : 1080p LED |  i5 4200U @ 2.3GHz | Nvidia GT 750M 4GB | 128GB Toshiba SSD  | 12GB DDR3 1600MHz 
Mini PC :: (Show Spoiler)
G3258 @ 4.6GHz | ELSA GTX 750 | Asrock Z87E ITX | 600W SFX 80+ Gold Silverstone + SG06-LITE | Corsair Vengeance 8GB 2000MHz | Scythe Kozuti + Ao Kaze | 25TB 2.5" Ex HDD (in total) , Zelda Gold Wiimote , LE Wii Classic Controller , Gold LE PS3 DualShock , BlackWidow Chroma ,
Now Playing : Xenoblade Definitive Edition on Yuzu - Switch Emu 

 
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04-06-2013, 02:58 PM
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AMD Overdrive for Linux has been out since 2008 according to this article. It came out with the Catalyst Driver v8.8. That driver is now version 13. That is a pretty old article though. This, on the other hand, is from 2 months ago, so I think it would be current information. Anyway, if Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword are out of the question, what sort of experience can I expect from Wind Waker? What about the GameCube version of Twilight Princess?
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04-06-2013, 03:12 PM (This post was last modified: 04-06-2013, 03:26 PM by admin89.)
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If you OCed that CPU to 4.1GHz , Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword are technically playable (you still have huge slowdown with TP - Hyrule Field , most other places should run full speed with EFB copies to Ram , SS still have slowdown on some places)
If you still not have decent speed with SS , you can try Dolphin r7719 + Speed Hack (Right-click the game - Properties - Tick "Vbeam Emulation") + Graphic Hack ( Right-click the game - Properties - Tick Znear + Zfar and then set value for zNEAR and zFAR : try either 0.1 & 1.0 or 0 & 1.0 )
Quote:GameCube version of Twilight Princess?
I heard it's less demanding than the wii version
Quote:what sort of experience can I expect from Wind Waker?
It's a light-weight game , it should run full speed with HLE
Laptop: (Show Spoiler)
Clevo W230SS : 3200x1800 IPS | i7 4700MQ @ 3.6GHz (Intel XTU + Triple fan mod) | GTX 860M GDDR5 | 128GB Toshiba CFD SSD | 16GB DDR3L 1600MHz
Acer v5-573G : 1080p LED |  i5 4200U @ 2.3GHz | Nvidia GT 750M 4GB | 128GB Toshiba SSD  | 12GB DDR3 1600MHz 
Mini PC :: (Show Spoiler)
G3258 @ 4.6GHz | ELSA GTX 750 | Asrock Z87E ITX | 600W SFX 80+ Gold Silverstone + SG06-LITE | Corsair Vengeance 8GB 2000MHz | Scythe Kozuti + Ao Kaze | 25TB 2.5" Ex HDD (in total) , Zelda Gold Wiimote , LE Wii Classic Controller , Gold LE PS3 DualShock , BlackWidow Chroma ,
Now Playing : Xenoblade Definitive Edition on Yuzu - Switch Emu 

 
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04-06-2013, 03:29 PM (This post was last modified: 04-06-2013, 03:34 PM by Tallix.)
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Am I correct in my assumption that in this case "playable" does not mean "full speed" (of course while using the OpenGL backend, as that is what I would be limited to)?

If there is anybody with some knowledge about this, would running a lighter distro while using Dolphin (Lubuntu, Puppy Linux, etc.) improve my performance in Dolphin? What if I used a window manager only (no desktop environment)?
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04-06-2013, 03:46 PM
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Mac OSX , Linus are slower than Windows (x64) because Mac OSX , Linus have to use OpenGL backend
Speed : Direct3D9(Windows) > Direct3D11(Windows) > OpenGL
OpenGL (Mac OSX , Linus ) is faster than OpenGL(Windows) but it's still not as fast as Direct3D9 . Direct3D11 does outperform Direct3D9 in some games though .

Since you use Linus , you're at disadvantage
Laptop: (Show Spoiler)
Clevo W230SS : 3200x1800 IPS | i7 4700MQ @ 3.6GHz (Intel XTU + Triple fan mod) | GTX 860M GDDR5 | 128GB Toshiba CFD SSD | 16GB DDR3L 1600MHz
Acer v5-573G : 1080p LED |  i5 4200U @ 2.3GHz | Nvidia GT 750M 4GB | 128GB Toshiba SSD  | 12GB DDR3 1600MHz 
Mini PC :: (Show Spoiler)
G3258 @ 4.6GHz | ELSA GTX 750 | Asrock Z87E ITX | 600W SFX 80+ Gold Silverstone + SG06-LITE | Corsair Vengeance 8GB 2000MHz | Scythe Kozuti + Ao Kaze | 25TB 2.5" Ex HDD (in total) , Zelda Gold Wiimote , LE Wii Classic Controller , Gold LE PS3 DualShock , BlackWidow Chroma ,
Now Playing : Xenoblade Definitive Edition on Yuzu - Switch Emu 

 
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