Plus they can easily deliver a 250w chip like previous gens with higher performance if they want to further down the line.
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(09-20-2014, 02:54 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: What's great about these cards: DSR is all I need. No 4k monitor for me unless my monitor stops working. I've seen AMD fanboys saying that Nvidia only beat AMD's current gen power consumption with their next gen when Tonga just came out and isn't anywhere near Maxwell's perf per watt at all. (09-20-2014, 01:37 AM)ExtremeDude2 Wrote:(09-20-2014, 01:26 AM)DatKid20 Wrote: [quote='AnyOldName3' pid='339615' dateline='1411132519'] #1 120Hz monitors say hi Skyrim's changeable fps limit says hi. 09-20-2014, 08:21 AM
DSR is just PR talk to lure people. NVIDIA GPUs have always been able to downsample easily by setting up custom resolutions etc unlike AMD which never got that support.
GeDoSaTo is a much better tool for this imo. It's a generic tool that works with any game that uses DX9/10 (support for other APIs coming) and allows you to downsample and tweak games easily. Looking forward to read more on the rest mentioned above. Probably won't upgrade just yet but if I spot a deal somewhere I might... 09-20-2014, 08:34 AM
(09-20-2014, 08:21 AM)Garteal Wrote: DSR is just PR talk to lure people. NVIDIA GPUs have always been able to downsample easily by setting up custom resolutions etc unlike AMD which never got that support. AMD GPUs can downsample. It's really not that hard to do. However I like to not have to hack around with my games just to downsample. Much more stable. 09-20-2014, 11:18 AM
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We've been able to do it before but never with this much ease. Previous methods have always been "hackish". I've been using SSAA workarounds since the geforce 6 days. But now it's been officially integrated as a driver option. That's a very good thing. Maybe now I can get more people to realize the importance of proper AA. The downscaling filter might have also been improved (we don't know yet) since they've taken an interest in it now.
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(09-20-2014, 11:18 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: @Garteal Well apparently Skyrim at 1080P with 8x MSAA is the same as Skyrim at 4k DSR. I don't know if that is a improvement from older downscaling filters. 09-20-2014, 03:12 PM
DatKid20 Wrote:Well apparently Skyrim at 1080P with 8x MSAA is the same as Skyrim at 4k DSR. I don't know if that is a improvement from older downscaling filters. That's nonsense. 4xSSAA is much better than 8xMSAA in any game with any implementation. It eliminates a wide range of aliasing that isn't affected by MSAA at all (specular aliasing, texture aliasing/shimmering, and transparent texture aliasing for example). 8xMSAA has more samples and should in theory yield less geometry aliasing but in reality 4 samples already does such a good job that the difference is virtually unnoticeable unless you're running at a painfully low resolution for your monitor. They're not even remotely comparable in such a way where anyone could state that "8x MSAA looks just like 4x SSAA in this game" with any significant degree of accuracy.
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(09-20-2014, 08:34 AM)DatKid20 Wrote: AMD GPUs can downsample. It's really not that hard to do. However I like to not have to hack around with my games just to downsample. Much more stable.Of course they can, I never said they couldn't. If you read what I said again, you'll notice these keywords: "downsample by easily setting up custom resolutions". With the old AMD drivers (12.x up to 13.1 or so) we were able to downsample with the DownSamplingGui tool, which worked fine, but you cannot do that in the later drivers. The only way to get a custom resolution set up now is to registery hack it into the system. (09-20-2014, 11:18 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: @GartealIt was always easy and straightforward, especially for veteran users such as yourself. How you can call this hackish when DSR will practically do the same thing? Not saying it's a bad thing what they're doing. At least someone is trying to appeal to gamers. |
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