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[Garteal]

Yeah... I read about that a while ago too. I really hope they won't go that direction.

Also, ID released the Doom 3 BFG source code.
I wonder what the community will make of it.

[AnyOldName3]

(11-27-2012, 08:45 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote:

Quote:b) If my motherboard's maximum RAM frequency is 1333 MHz, and I upgrade to 2x4GB @ 1600 MHz, when I upgrade motherboards in the future, it won't have set some permanent setting on the cards so that they won't run at 1600 MHz when on the right board. I'd rather confirm this that have to meddle with RAM frequencies and latencies at a later date.

Tell me the motherboard. It won't run the ram at 1600 MHz if it doesn't support it, even if the ram supports it. You would have to go in and manually OC it.

Most motherboards don't even properly update the ram frequency/latencies when you swap out the ram. You usually have to go into the bios setup and manually reconfigure it.

As for your question. No, that makes no sense.

If the question makes no sense, then that means that everything is fine. I was just making sure that if a 1600 MHz RAM card was used at 1333 MHz, it would still run at 1600 MHz when moved to another motherboard. Basically I wanted to know that there wasn't a way in which a crappy dell motherboard could set the RAM's frequency by writing some data to a identifying chip on the RAM which would be loaded up on a future motherboard. Again, the less sense this makes, the more likely it is that everything is OK.

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Quote:c) Haswell will be DDR3 compatible, and won't force me to use DDR4, won't it?

Yes. DDR4 won't be out yet according to Intel and JEDEC.

Thanks. I probably could have googled it, though and saved you some time.

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Quote:d) How do I tell if a PC case is decently ventilated? I don't want to buy a case and find that it has the same crappy airflow as my current one (which forces all air that flows out of my graphics card straight back in, meaning it doesn't coll properly).

Well you could try looking at it (sorry, I can't help but give a smartass response to that question).

Quote: In fact, do you have any suggestions for a good case?

Loads. What's your budget and preferred size?

As far as cases go, I don't really have much idea. If I set a budget, then it's possible that I'll set it lower than what I need to spend to get what I want, and also possible that I'll set it really high, and be recommended something that functionally is identical to something cheaper, just has LED lights. As far as size goes, I'd like to have enough space inside for the actual computer with plenty of airflow, but would rather not have anything that is huge to be huge as opposed to being huge to maximise airflow.

[NaturalViolence]

Quote:http://semiaccurate.com/2012/11/26/intel...o-with-it/

They'll lose a lot of costumers.

Oh look another sensationalist article from semi-accurate. Who would have expected that?

Looks like we'll have to upgrade our motherboards and cpu at the same time. That's it! It's over! The PC is dead! Because we've never had to do that before. Right guys?

/sarcasm mode off

Quote:If they really do this, it's time for AMD to catch on

Not if:
1. They keep making chips that are 3 years behind Intel
2. Intel brings motherboard prices down to $40-80 thanks to haswell moving half the components onto the cpu die

With the increasing pin count I think everyone deep down knew we were eventually going to return to surface mounted BGA.

[AnyOldName3]

I was expecting it to happen a little further in the future, and at that point the motherboard would basically just be some copper tracks between the CPU and RAM/PCI slots/Frontplate USB and power buttons, as everything that mattered would be on-die.

[ExtremeDude2]

(11-28-2012, 02:00 AM)Anti-Ultimate Wrote: http://semiaccurate.com/2012/11/26/intel-kills-off-the-desktop-pcs-go-with-it/

That was the most retarded thing I ever read

[NaturalViolence]

Sorry I forgot to answer your post.

Quote:As far as cases go, I don't really have much idea. If I set a budget, then it's possible that I'll set it lower than what I need to spend to get what I want, and also possible that I'll set it really high, and be recommended something that functionally is identical to something cheaper, just has LED lights. As far as size goes, I'd like to have enough space inside for the actual computer with plenty of airflow, but would rather not have anything that is huge to be huge as opposed to being huge to maximise airflow.

Ok......that's going to make things a bit more difficult.

Let's do a Q&A then.

1. Would you prefer a larger case that costs more and is less mobile (bigger + heavier) but offers more room which allows for bigger parts, more parts, and makes assembling/disassembling less frustrating. Or would you prefer the opposite? Smaller, lighter, cheaper, more mobile, but less room.

2. How much does noise factor into your considerations?

3. How important is easy assembling/disassembling?

4. How important is cable management?

5. How important is appearance?

6. Are there any other special features that you might want?

7. How important is durability/material to you?

8. How important is airflow to you?

9. How important is price to you?

I'm sure I've forgotten some stuff considering I buy on average 1 chassis per 10 years so far.

[AnyOldName3]

1) This is quite a bit of where I am stuck. I don't want to waste money on getting a bigger case if I won't see much benefit, and don't want the airflow to be bad. I won't need it to be mobile, but may want to move it at some point. I should be able to find some way of moving it (once I had to move a computer up a flight of stairs that some intelligent engineer had decided to put several kilograms of steel in the base. Only after it was up the stairs did I find that the steel blocks were held in with easily undo-able clips).
2) I'd rather quiet than loud, but not enough to need to pay significantly more for it.

3) I'd rather easy assembly, but am able to assemble more or less anything, so should be able to cope.

4) As long as cables aren't in the way of airflow or getting caught in a fan I should be OK.

5) As long as it isn't actively ugly, I'll be able to cope.

6) Special features?

7) I'd rather it didn't fall apart, but don't need the thing made from sapphire crystal.

8) Fairly important. At some point it will contain a Haswell i5 @~4.3 GHz and an OC'd HD6950 (Maybe even with BIOS unlocking to make it a HD6970) (Possibly 2 in a few years if it works out better value to crossfire than get a whole new GPU).

9) I need something adequate for my needs (ie that doesn't blow all GPU exhaust air back into the GPU fan inlets) and would rather not waste money on things I don't need (such as lights or a big logo on the side).

[AnyOldName3]

A lot of people in random forums from Googling 'logitech g400 vs g500' seem to think that the G400 is better, against your recommendation. Is this just a case of 'this is the internet, so I'll make up theoretical problems', or are there genuine disadvantages.

[NaturalViolence]

Quote:A lot of people in random forums from Googling 'logitech g400 vs g500' seem to think that the G400 is better, against your recommendation.

Now hold on there just a second. I never recommended the G500 over the G400. I never even mentioned the G400 other than:

Quote:I would highly recommend my G500 or the cheaper G400 if you're on a budget.

I then went on to state why I like my G500. I have never used the G400 so I can't comment on that but it looks like it would be a terrific lower budget alternative. The price difference between the two varies from one retailer to another.

On newegg they are $60 and $40 respectively:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104318
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104577

According to newegg the G500 has:
-two extra programmable buttons
-adjustable weight
-dual mode scroll wheel (high friction and low friction mode)
-higher max dpi (3600 vs 5700)
-lower min dpi (200 vs 400)
-laser (instead of LED) for tracking (lasers are better for tracking across exotic surfaces, in other words anything other than a mousepad)
-application profiles via onboard memory

So are those worth an extra $20? It's up to you. I personally probably think you'll be satisfied either way. I would probably prefer paying the extra $20 for the dual mode scroll wheel (which lets you switch between fast and slow scrolling on the fly, which I find very useful for web browsing), the two extra programmable buttons (very useful for gaming), and the application profiles (could be useful for more hardcore gamers).

[AnyOldName3]

The issue seemed to be whether there was something called 'mouse acceleration' or not. As I have no idea in what way this would be different to moving a mouse to move a cursor, I decided to ask.