Linux gaming will suck unless porters actually release polished ports. All of the ports we have currently would be completely outclassed in performance if someone wrote a Vulkan DX wrapper for Wine.
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02-15-2017, 10:14 PM
>>Vulkan DX wrapper
Valve did (dota 2 dx to vulkan) ... dx9 still has 20-30% better FPS then vulkan 02-15-2017, 11:26 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-15-2017, 11:29 PM by NaturalViolence.)
Anti-Ultimate Wrote:Linux gaming will suck unless porters actually release polished ports. Which will never happen unless the linux community actually makes this easy for them. You can't expect companies to do all of this extra work and deal with licensing hell to make pitiful gains to their sales numbers.
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(02-15-2017, 10:52 PM)Anti-Ultimate Wrote: But Dota 2 Reborn uses native Vulkan.... who say? do you think "workshopers" upload Vulkan shadders and models??? nop dx9 still and valve dota 2 reborn engine render it using dx to Opengl or dx to Vulkan realtime translation (same like wine) so dota 2 its not "pure vulkan app" 02-16-2017, 07:00 AM
Model format is entirely an engine property, and has nothing to do with D3D vs OGL vs Vulkan. For a lot of engines, shaders aren't directly associated with models either. The model file just contains a load of parameters for a more general purpose shader that's used for almost everything. Even if shaders were shipped as per-model HLSL, it's not hard to translate HLSL to GLSL, which both OpenGL and Vulkan can use.
OS: Windows 10 64 bit Professional
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5900X RAM: 48GB GPU: Radeon 7800 XT 02-16-2017, 11:49 AM
yep
source 1 has wrapper on full windows api and dx calls (dx code in source 1 obvious has alot of hacks and tricks...it make translation slower much much slower) source 2- Valve write full cross-platform "binary engine" without any "OS graphic api render" (I sure they write own api for "source 2 -graphic" inside of source 2 engine) and for render it to dx or ogl or vulkan they use like "plugin" to translate "source 2 engine graphic api" to dx/ogl/vk and all models/effects even if they has dx-format they translated to "source 2 graphic api" on load, then to "target OS graphic api" this method make dota2 same slow on all OS with ogl/vk/dx its obviously- all engines use this way to add support of all graphic api (this is also reason why unity(engine) so slow) 02-22-2017, 05:57 AM
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i dont know this dude that commented, but dafuq? also, tried my best to call him a retarded in a classy way xD 02-22-2017, 07:18 AM
Whatever your actual motivations for trying to be 'classy' (I'm pretty sure there are a few layers of irony involved), I feel that the style of your prose is likely to make him dismiss your opinions as those of a complete neckbeard (think /r/IAmVerySmart or /r/NiceGuys). It'd probably have been more effective to tell him to stop being mean or GTFO.
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CPU: AMD Ryzen 5900X RAM: 48GB GPU: Radeon 7800 XT (02-22-2017, 07:18 AM)AnyOldName3 Wrote: Whatever your actual motivations for trying to be 'classy' (I'm pretty sure there are a few layers of irony involved), I feel that the style of your prose is likely to make him dismiss your opinions as those of a complete neckbeard (think /r/IAmVerySmart or /r/NiceGuys). It'd probably have been more effective to tell him to stop being mean or GTFO. no, cause that would probably gotten a reaction out of him which was unwanted and where the hell will that end then? (probably me telling nasty shit and the model having her self esteem ruined) originally i wanted to delete the comment and send him a msg over facebook but his settings wont allow it (ass) i wrote it in that way on purpose. its funny and it wouldn't have caused a reaction from said troll which is exactly what is needed |
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