Project Overhaul Dolphin Wiki

[wildgoosespeeder]

(11-10-2015, 07:05 AM)Jhonn Wrote: It's actually funny that you also failed to mention to our fellow forum members that most of those "concepts" were promptly rejected by a widely negative response from all Wiki Admins and most active Wiki Users, mostly because they add unnecessary maintenance and increase the complexity of the wiki for outsiders trying to add something new to the wiki, not to mention another set of N points and issues with those craps templates you're proposing? That you simply keep evading instead of answering? (and that everyone can read by themselves in confusedly distributed wiki talk pages).

I think the following statements I made originally imply that there was some negative points to my ideas that I want to turn positive:

(11-09-2015, 05:26 PM)wildgoosespeeder Wrote: A common complaint with my ideas was that it would increase maintenance of the already hard-to-maintain Wiki.

Right now, I need feedback. These templates may look rough on the surface (I got complaints about it and I am working with Kolano to make it more acceptable as he already improved the look of my problem rating idea) but I know at its core it is something the Wiki needs to help aid it's maintainability.

I'm going to the forum for people's feedback, not as "crying to mommy when something is unfair" for lack of a better term. I realize that the conversations were spread out but Kolano has since fixed that. I thank him for that. Also keep in mind that I only got feedback from four or so people at the time. The forum just seems like a good place to get more than four people's opinion.

(11-10-2015, 07:05 AM)Jhonn Wrote: Oh, good, very good wildgoosespeeder, running to the forums now? To get opinion of the forum users that have no idea of what's going on? HA HA

Seriously dude, JUST STOP, you keep saying that you're trying to improve the wiki but looking at your contributions reveals no useful contribuition other than what you did in the last days: suggest crap => get negative responses about that crap => keep working in the non sense you're proposing to make it even crappier (and say it was based in the negative responses) => overexplain a lot (to evade answering most questions) and then the game restarts. But hey! Something new in that game, now we have a new chapter called "running to the forums"  

I don't know what your beef is with me. Comments like this aren't helping me in the slightest. I see this as harassment than helpful. Please stop.    

(11-10-2015, 07:21 AM)JosJuice Wrote: I don't know enough about the wiki to comment on this as a whole, but looking at the example pages you put up, I see a problem: The templates for each issue will prompt the user to create an issue report if there isn't one, even for things that would be obviously invalid if someone were to submit them to the issue tracker, such as EFB2RAM being needed. (The template is also weirdly positioned, making the first line of text very short.)

MaJoR also noted that. To quote my rebuttal on Template talk:RatingProblemFix:

Quote:I think it's because the awareness of such an issue being sought is not explicitly expressed. I find the duplicate issues stemming from the lack of first reports not being in the Wiki in the first place. I find that a duplicate report is better than not having a known report at all. The Bug Tracker admins have flagged issues as duplicate in the past. This just means to me that the situation will sort itself out eventually if my system were implemented. Then it will be encouraged to replace duplicate reports with first reports (that is something I can't tell MediaWiki to flag because it is too complicated). Recently, it seems that Lucario fixed the URL to search first when clicked in my template. As for templates, I find that the templates are not categorized correctly. Two categories should be templates that are of use to Dolphin Wiki contributors and templates that should be ignored by regular users (and maybe protected from any edits).

I know the positions are awkwardly placed. Originally, they didn't do that. Kolano is working making the template more appealing. I suck with design but what I can do is get the core concept working at least.

(11-10-2015, 07:22 AM)StripTheSoul Wrote: All that sounds kinda complicated and not necessarily helpful...
It might have been good to think some of this stuff through a bit more aaaaaaall the way back when all those wiki pages were made, but now I don't think there's much use to this other than confusing people and setting the bar higher to edit/update a page which most people already fret.

That statement in bold is just telling me the problem may have lingered for too long or the admins didn't foresee such a problem occurring. I originally thought that but hearing it from you confirms it in my head.