PowerVR 6 series coming to Android

[DatKid20]

The Asus Zenfone 2 is coming with a 64 bit Atom Z3580 and a PowerVR G6430 and it comes with 4GB of memory. All of this for $200 apparently. Plus the design of the phone is amazing.

EDIT: $200 Dollar version is only 2GB. No confirmation on how much the 4GB version will be.

[Nintonito]

(01-07-2015, 02:24 PM)DatKid20 Wrote: The Asus Zenfone 2 is coming with a 64 bit Atom Z3580 and a PowerVR G6430 and it comes with 4GB of memory. All of this for $200 apparently. Plus the design of the phone is amazing.

EDIT: $200 Dollar version is only 2GB. No confirmation on how much the 4GB version will be.

That's nice,  but being an Intel device it would behave quite differently (assuming the JIt has even been added yet).  As for PowerVR,  I have very little knowledge of the android drivers.  I'm definitely keeping an eye on this one.  4Gb of RAM is very future proof

[tueidj]

Intel = x86, of course there is JIT code for it (assuming it's 64-bit lollipop, which hasn't been explicitly stated... a 64-bit cpu does not necessarily imply an operating system that supports 64-bit apps). But it's an Atom so it'll be rubbish.

[DatKid20]

Atom's have run better for me then any Android device other then the Tegra K1 and that was while using x86 Dolphin which doesn't have all the improvements the 64 bit JIT has now.

[tueidj]

So you're saying they're slower than a device which can't play most games at an acceptable speed?

It's pretty much accepted that you need at least an ivy bridge generation i5 to get acceptable speed from Dolphin, the performance of any atom cpu is far below that. They even make AMD's chips look good.

[Nintonito]

(01-07-2015, 11:42 PM)tueidj Wrote: So you're saying they're slower than a device which can't play most games at an acceptable speed?

It's pretty much accepted that you need at least an ivy bridge generation i5 to get acceptable speed from Dolphin, the performance of any atom cpu is far below that. They even make AMD's chips look good.

Well he was refering to old tests run on the 32bit windows version (which is considerably slower than what we have now).  As far as mobile goes,  Intel could be quite competitive thanks to heavily active 64bit JIT development.  I don't wanna jump the gun here,  but android is a different beast from desktop operating systems,  and overhead tends to be much lower.   A slower processor could easily see better use in mobile vs a desktop operating system. 

[tueidj]

It's still the same linux kernel underneath, what you're saying makes no sense.

[admin89]

Broadwell will crush Tegra X1
See CES 2015 : Intel ultra small form factor Broadwell

[Granville]

(01-08-2015, 06:24 PM)admin89 Wrote: Broadwell will crush Tegra X1
See CES 2015 : Intel ultra small form factor Broadwell

Assuming that is true, it sounds like the Tegra X1 is small enough to target smartphone sized devices. Will these new Broadwell chips also be usable in smartphone sized devices as well? I ask because the only devices demonstrated in the vid are tablets and laptops and i'm curious as to just how small these new Broadwells can really get. It sounds like Intel is trying to compete more with AMD in the laptop integrated graphics market, rather than with Nvidia in the smartphone/tablet space.

With admittedly no expertise on the matter on my part, just offhand from looking at the video where he holds the exposed chip, it LOOKS very small at least. Actually it appears reasonably close in size to my old Samsung Fascinate from 2010 (first gen Galaxy S phone which was just a smidge under 5 inches height x 2.5 inches width). Though i'm unaware if its seemingly small design translates to being able to readily fit inside a smartphone design (what with battery life, heat and other elements to consider)...

[Nintonito]

(01-08-2015, 06:24 PM)admin89 Wrote: Broadwell will crush Tegra X1
See CES 2015 : Intel ultra small form factor Broadwell

Broad well can't match the Nvidia drivers, or the raw GPU speed.  Even if the CPU is faster it would have to be 14nm to be definitively faster.