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Phones and SOCs performance on dolphin
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Poll: Which CPU and GPU (SOC) is the most suitable for dolphin on android?
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Exynos and mali
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Qualcomm and adreno
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Phones and SOCs performance on dolphin
04-12-2015, 03:25 AM
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(04-12-2015, 03:05 AM)sonicdude13 Wrote: Wow thank you grammar Nazi !!!!! Also I never said that they're running it in full speed but at decent speeds?, and yes because running older dolphin versions is bad you just can't handle the fact that I gave three videos showing an Intel atom device running dolphin and the games at a satisfactory speed just fly away and eat some more "cheeze" (since grammar matters so much).

They're not even running at decent speeds. These are some of the easiest games to run – even my four-year-old MacBook Air could run these at full speed. (Well, not counting its integer shader issues where it'd drop down to software rendering in certain cases.)

Also, yes, this username is shit, but I really haven't given much thought to replacing it yet, so this is how it stays. And you didn't even spell "cheez" right, m8.
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04-12-2015, 03:26 AM
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(04-12-2015, 03:22 AM)Nintonito Wrote:
(04-12-2015, 03:09 AM)sonicdude13 Wrote:
(04-12-2015, 03:03 AM)tueidj Wrote: Those videos don't really prove me wrong - the first is running at barely 75% speed, the second is about 50%, the third is barely watchable. Plus they're all gamecube games and none of them are the t100, so how does that answer what I asked you?

I said that device because ita running dolphin at a somewhat fair speed its slow but its good also that's a Wii game even the k1 can run nsmbwii at a decent speed I'm not saying atom can run things full speed but it can sure run things decently enough.


(04-12-2015, 03:07 AM)tueidj Wrote: Either grow up or shut up, please.
What you need to do is grow up and accept peoples opinions after nintinito said the atom was good you kept implying that it wasn't as if what your saying is a fact which it clearly isn't just keep watching those video ight.

No you really need to shut the f**k up.  You change your damn stance every other post and reword things every time someone calls your opinionated BS.  Do some damn research on things before you start sprouting aggressive comments and telling everyone on here how they are somehow wrong.  They've posted plenty of links to help you learn,  but instead you insist that you somehow acquired this knowledge though voodoo GPU Magic, and have insisted on wasting everyone's time (although debatably it's worth it for the entertainment it provides that certain mobile JIT developer).

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04-12-2015, 03:30 AM
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(04-12-2015, 03:25 AM)pauldacheez Wrote:
(04-12-2015, 03:05 AM)sonicdude13 Wrote: Wow thank you grammar Nazi !!!!! Also I never said that they're running it in full speed but at decent speeds?, and yes because running older dolphin versions is bad you just can't handle the fact that I gave three videos showing an Intel atom device running dolphin and the games at a satisfactory speed just fly away and eat some more "cheeze" (since grammar matters so much).

They're not even running at decent speeds. These are some of the easiest games to run – even my four-year-old MacBook Air could run these at full speed. (Well, not counting its integer shader issues where it'd drop down to software rendering in certain cases.)

Also, yes, this username is shit, but I really haven't given much thought to replacing it yet, so this is how it stays. And you didn't even spell "cheez" right, m8.

Lol yeah I didn't spell cheeze right thanks for letting me know GNazi and yes sure those are the easiest games to run which is why only the Samsung and nvidia devices can run those games at decent speeds thanks, like I said those videos are proof that atom devices can run dolphin games good thank you
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04-12-2015, 03:31 AM
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Listen, I own an Asus Transformer T100. I can assure you, it is NOT good for dolphin.
You've already admitted you don't know everything, so please realize your definition of good is not what everyones definition will be.
Personally I don't consider the T100's performance good. I'd much rather use Dolphin on my desktop which has an I5 (4 cores overclocked to 4.1 GHZ) so I can run most games fullspeed.

Also you are arguing with:
Tueidj - One of the most knowledgeable people on the topic of the Wii, GC, etc.
Pauldacheez - Who is basically Hitler and a local Dolphin Guru

They both know more than you about how Dolphin and CPUs in general work, learn from what they are posting and move on. 
You just shouldn't go spouting what you think is right, when it is wrong, and then ignoring what other members tell you.
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04-12-2015, 03:34 AM
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(04-12-2015, 03:31 AM)garrlker Wrote: Listen, I own an Asus Transformer T100. I can assure you, it is NOT good for dolphin.
You've already admitted you don't know everything, so please realize your definition of good is not what everyones definition will be.
Personally I don't consider the T100's performance good. I'd much rather use Dolphin on my desktop which has an I5 (4 cores overclocked to 4.1 GHZ) so I can run most games fullspeed.

Also you are arguing with:
Tueidj - One of the most knowledgeable people on the topic of the Wii, GC, etc.
Pauldacheez - Who is basically Hitler and a local Dolphin Guru

They both know more than you about how Dolphin and CPUs in general work, learn from what they are posting and move on. 
You just shouldn't go spouting what you think is right, when it is wrong, and then ignoring what other members tell you.
I honestly don't care who I'm arguing with they're no bill gates and I love how everyone's focusing on the Asus t100 and not that dell venue 8 pro, atom runs dolphin and the games good enough and that's what those videos showcase and that's what I'm sticking to in the end everyone has opinions and what they think or say is wrong or right good or bad is not a fact but opinion and that's the end of that.
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04-12-2015, 03:45 AM
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Actually, it's pretty likely that Tueidj knows a higher percentage of how the Wii/GC works than Bill Gates knows about any NT-based version of Windows. Also, just because your standards for what counts as 'good' are lower than the other 7 billion people on this planet, it doesn't mean that yours are the right ones. For most people, good has to at least match the Wii's speed in a version of Dolphin that isn't a buggy, crashy mess like some of the videos you've posted, as otherwise the audio won't work, which is a pretty big part of the experience of most games.
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04-12-2015, 03:51 AM
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(04-12-2015, 03:45 AM)AnyOldName3 Wrote: Actually, it's pretty likely that Tueidj knows a higher percentage of how the Wii/GC works than Bill Gates knows about any NT-based version of Windows. Also, just because your standards for what counts as 'good' are lower than the other 7 billion people on this planet, it doesn't mean that yours are the right ones. For most people, good has to at least match the Wii's speed in a version of Dolphin that isn't a buggy, crashy mess like some of the videos you've posted, as otherwise the audio won't work, which is a pretty big part of the experience of most games.

And just because you guys say atom isn't good doesn't mean you guys are right so wtf are you sayin? And its not a buggy crashy mess if the game runs slower on a certain processor than what you guys have.
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04-12-2015, 04:08 AM
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(04-12-2015, 02:19 AM)agrabren Wrote: Then you understand the immense difference between running a game compiled native for your platform (the PC HD version) vs trying to run a game through an emulator? I have a very high-end PC (due to my work) and it can play most Wii games smoothly in emulation. But think about that for a moment... A $2000 PC is barely powerful enough to play games designed for a $200 console? Yes, because the rule of thumb for emulation is 10x the performance of the native device. To put this in completely non-technical terms, imaging trying to talk to someone who speaks a completely different language than you. Every time one of you speaks, the interpreter in the middle has to translate it. Now, you're impatient because you have to wait for that interpreter to repeat your question to the other person, wait for the response, and have that response translated back to you. That is exactly how emulation works. JIT would be like telling the other person that every time they say "venstre" to instead say "left". HLE works by recognizing key phrases like "Ta til venstre i neste lys" and replacing them with "Turn left at the next light". It's faster than word-by-word translation, but introduces other issues like incorrect translations.
That is an amazing way to explain that.

(04-12-2015, 03:34 AM)sonicdude13 Wrote: I honestly don't care who I'm arguing with they're no bill gates and I love how everyone's focusing on the Asus t100 and not that dell venue 8 pro, atom runs dolphin and the games good enough and that's what those videos showcase and that's what I'm sticking to in the end everyone has opinions and what they think or say is wrong or right good or bad is not a fact but opinion and that's the end of that.


[color=#000000]And just because you guys say atom isn't good doesn't mean you guys are right so wtf are you sayin? And its not a buggy crashy mess if the game runs slower on a certain processor than what you guys have.[/color]

1. I know they have similar hardware, but we're focusing on it because you kept claiming it could run Dolphin well. 
2. We have dolphin benchmarks proving the atom line is horrible.
3. You are wrong, accept it, learn it, and hopefully correct it. 
4. Now get the fuck off these forums and spout your bullshit somewhere else.
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04-12-2015, 04:14 AM (This post was last modified: 04-12-2015, 04:15 AM by sonicdude13.)
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(04-12-2015, 04:08 AM)garrlker Wrote:
(04-12-2015, 02:19 AM)agrabren Wrote: Then you understand the immense difference between running a game compiled native for your platform (the PC HD version) vs trying to run a game through an emulator? I have a very high-end PC (due to my work) and it can play most Wii games smoothly in emulation. But think about that for a moment... A $2000 PC is barely powerful enough to play games designed for a $200 console? Yes, because the rule of thumb for emulation is 10x the performance of the native device. To put this in completely non-technical terms, imaging trying to talk to someone who speaks a completely different language than you. Every time one of you speaks, the interpreter in the middle has to translate it. Now, you're impatient because you have to wait for that interpreter to repeat your question to the other person, wait for the response, and have that response translated back to you. That is exactly how emulation works. JIT would be like telling the other person that every time they say "venstre" to instead say "left". HLE works by recognizing key phrases like "Ta til venstre i neste lys" and replacing them with "Turn left at the next light". It's faster than word-by-word translation, but introduces other issues like incorrect translations.
That is an amazing way to explain that.


(04-12-2015, 03:34 AM)sonicdude13 Wrote: I honestly don't care who I'm arguing with they're no bill gates and I love how everyone's focusing on the Asus t100 and not that dell venue 8 pro, atom runs dolphin and the games good enough and that's what those videos showcase and that's what I'm sticking to in the end everyone has opinions and what they think or say is wrong or right good or bad is not a fact but opinion and that's the end of that.


[color=#000000]And just because you guys say atom isn't good doesn't mean you guys are right so wtf are you sayin? And its not a buggy crashy mess if the game runs slower on a certain processor than what you guys have.[/color]

1. I know they have similar hardware, but we're focusing on it because you kept claiming it could run Dolphin well. 
2. We have dolphin benchmarks proving the atom line is horrible.
3. You are wrong, accept it, learn it, and hopefully correct it. 
4. Now get the fuck off these forums and spout your bullshit somewhere else.
Wow benchmarks because just like polygraphs they're so reliable and totally tell the truth no I'm not wrong its my opinion and you guys have y'all opinions none are facts, the videos shows atom can run dolphin at a playable enough speed so my case is close so shut the fuck up and slurp your mucus/slime you nasty ass frog.
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04-12-2015, 04:18 AM
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(04-12-2015, 03:26 AM)sonicdude13 Wrote:
(04-12-2015, 03:22 AM)Nintonito Wrote:
(04-12-2015, 03:09 AM)sonicdude13 Wrote:
(04-12-2015, 03:03 AM)tueidj Wrote: Those videos don't really prove me wrong - the first is running at barely 75% speed, the second is about 50%, the third is barely watchable. Plus they're all gamecube games and none of them are the t100, so how does that answer what I asked you?

I said that device because ita running dolphin at a somewhat fair speed its slow but its good also that's a Wii game even the k1 can run nsmbwii at a decent speed I'm not saying atom can run things full speed but it can sure run things decently enough.



(04-12-2015, 03:07 AM)tueidj Wrote: Either grow up or shut up, please.
What you need to do is grow up and accept peoples opinions after nintinito said the atom was good you kept implying that it wasn't as if what your saying is a fact which it clearly isn't just keep watching those video ight.

No you really need to shut the f**k up.  You change your damn stance every other post and reword things every time someone calls your opinionated BS.  Do some damn research on things before you start sprouting aggressive comments and telling everyone on here how they are somehow wrong.  They've posted plenty of links to help you learn,  but instead you insist that you somehow acquired this knowledge though voodoo GPU Magic, and have insisted on wasting everyone's time (although debatably it's worth it for the entertainment it provides that certain mobile JIT developer).

Who are you referring to?

Your troll dumbass.  Please stop,  its gone from embarrassing but funny to concerning and mildly irritating.
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