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Nvidias 336 Processor Cores vs ATIs 1120 Stream Processing Units - which is better?
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Poll: Same price. Which is best?
Nvidia GeForce GTX 460 with 336 Processor Cores
ATI Radeon HD 5830 with 1120 Stream Processing Units
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Nvidias 336 Processor Cores vs ATIs 1120 Stream Processing Units - which is better?
01-20-2011, 06:14 PM (This post was last modified: 01-20-2011, 06:40 PM by hypnotoad.)
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I'm comparing ATI and Nvidia in the same price range, about $170, and with certain specs that are the same:

Memory Size: 1GB
Memory Interface: 256-bit
Memory Type: DDR5

The major difference I see, is the number of processor cores / stream processing units. These must not be the same thing. If so, ATI has over 3 times as many, and that's what everyone should buy.

nVIDIA GeForce GTX 460
Core Clock: 725MHz
Stream Processors: 336 Processor Cores
Effective Memory Clock: 3600MHz

ATI Radeon HD 5830 (for instance)
Core Clock: 800MHz
Stream Processors: 1120 Stream Processing Units
Effective Memory Clock: 1000MHz (4.0Gbps)

Another major difference, is the "Effective Memory Clock", 3600MHz to 1000MHz.
Interesting claim, here. And they also compared the GTX 460 with the Radeon HD 5830.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product-geforce-gtx-460-us.html

It says at the bottom of the page:
nVIDIA Wrote:GeForce GTX 460 has 4 times faster FPS versus Radeon HD 5830 in Microsoft DirectX 11 SDK subd11 tessellation test with maximum tessellation level set.
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01-20-2011, 07:26 PM
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the 460 has more REAL cores, the 5830 only has 224 which distribute for 4ops and 1 sop every cycle, however to reach peak performance on amd, the drivers usually have to be specially optimised for the app due to the 4+1way design. average is 2+1 every cycle which leaves a good amount of shaders practically useless.
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01-20-2011, 08:07 PM
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460 WINS , I think , in any cases ...
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01-21-2011, 12:23 AM (This post was last modified: 01-21-2011, 12:27 AM by dannzen.)
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fanboy?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-460-gf104-fermi,2684-6.html

conclusion:

both are more than enough to handle dolphin...

(01-20-2011, 06:14 PM)hypnotoad Wrote: http://www.nvidia.com/object/product-geforce-gtx-460-us.html

It says at the bottom of the page:
nVIDIA Wrote:GeForce GTX 460 has 4 times faster FPS versus Radeon HD 5830 in Microsoft DirectX 11 SDK subd11 tessellation test with maximum tessellation level set.

jeah but still under playable speed Big Grin its marketing bullshit

but I would prefer nvidia... its overall better
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01-21-2011, 01:39 AM
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lol
ati and nvidia have different ways to do the same thing, so you can't compare one brand vs another just by the spec

but in the end gtx460>5830 and 6850>both
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01-21-2011, 03:23 AM (This post was last modified: 01-21-2011, 03:23 AM by abfab126.)
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Indeed , but I ll say even sometimes 460 > OR = 6850 ^^
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01-21-2011, 05:55 AM
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(01-21-2011, 03:23 AM)abfab126 Wrote: Indeed , but I ll say even sometimes 460 > OR = 6850 ^^

I was a fanatic of nvidia... but some day i play on may laptop (with ati) and i dicovery that my laptop are most power that desktop with nvidia. change my desktop now i have ati 4870 ddr3 and by the same price compare with nvidia i have ddr3 and more gigaflops... mmm dolphin allmost game run at 60fps.

The real gamers only has ATI

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01-21-2011, 07:42 AM
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n vidia forever
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01-21-2011, 08:23 AM
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I can't believe this was a serious question. Any benchmark that can be looked up on google in 5 seconds shows the GTX460 raping a 5830 across the board. It's at least 25-30% faster on average. But then again a 460 is supposed to be more expensive ($160 for a 5830, $170-200 for a 460 depending on if it's the 1GB edition or regular). Not sure where those prices in the OP came from.
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01-21-2011, 10:29 AM (This post was last modified: 01-21-2011, 10:30 AM by dannzen.)
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dont forget the power consumption in full and idle + loadness of nvidia cards...

these 3 factors helped me by my decision....
i have a ati 5770 in my rig
the airplane loadness of a nvidia sucks...

and iam using my i7 rig undervolted as workstation...
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