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NVIDIA Shield Tablet K1 need help.
06-06-2016, 11:14 AM
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JohnML86
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Hello, my name is John.

I recently purchased an NVIDIA Shield Tablet K1.  When attempting to run a game, it is very choppy and unplayable.  I tried using different settings like Dual Core or Fastmem or OpenGL for the video backend, but that did not change the performance.  I have the Dolphin Emulator (Alpha) APK v0.14 version currently, so I tried downloading the official version from the dolphin-emu website, 4.0-9440, to see if that would work better, but when trying to install, I get the message, "App not installed". I see that on another post, YellowDart said that that message would appear if the device does not meet the requirements for the Android version of Dolphin Emulator. which YellowDart posted here:
Android 5.0 or higher
A 64-bit processor
A version of Android that supports 64-bit applications
A graphics processor that supports OpenGL ES 3.0 or higher.

I recently had a conversation with NVIDIA, and they said my NVIDIA SHIELD Tablet K1 meets those requirements.  So if that's true I don't know why I can't install the official Dolphin Emulator from the dolphin-emu.org website?  What is the difference between APK versions, for instance the APK v0.14, with the official versions from the official dolphin-emulator.org website?  
My NVIDIA Shield Tablet K1 can play modern games from the NVIDIA Shield Tablet K1 Shield Hub app for download/purchase, which are comparable to the Gamecube/Wii graphics.  The Shield Tablet is made for tablet gaming so I don't see why it can't play Wii, or at least Gamecube games.  

Is there anybody that has the Dolphin Emulator on their Android tablet, working well and able to play games? Need help/guidance.  Thanks.
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06-06-2016, 11:19 AM (This post was last modified: 06-06-2016, 11:25 AM by Helios.)
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That nvidia CS person is 100% wrong then and I'm wondering what they're smoking.

If Dolphin does not install, that means that you do not have a 64-bit CPU or a 64-bit userspace.

The K1 is in no way 64 bit. The only one that is is it's sibling chip, Denver, which you do not have.

Also, knocking out some misconceptions time!

Just because your tablet can play pretty games, doesn't mean it can emulate pretty games. emulation is an entirely different beast that you can't just say "Well I can play this game designed for my device fine and it looks better."

Also, Wii games aren't necessarily more intensive than GC games. New Super Mario Bros Wii is easily one of the most lightweight games Dolphin emulates. Rogue Squadron for the GC is easily one of the hardest.

Anyways, if you want a good Android device to play Dolphin, you're going to be waiting awhile. None really exist yet. The shield tv comes close because it has good drivers and a decent CPU, but it only plays NSMBW relatively well and a handful of others. The Nexus 5x plays games sort of okay with it's ES 3.2 drivers + buffer_storage, but it throttles to hell and becomes unplayable. So right now you deal with drivers that are behind on what is ideal / buggy, or CPUs that throttle to hell leaving you with a handful of playable games and the rest playing at less than fullspeed, which is terrible UX.
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06-07-2016, 07:28 AM
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JohnML86
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(06-06-2016, 11:19 AM)Helios Wrote: That nvidia CS person is 100% wrong then and I'm wondering what they're smoking.

If Dolphin does not install, that means that you do not have a 64-bit CPU or a 64-bit userspace.

The K1 is in no way 64 bit. The only one that is is it's sibling chip, Denver, which you do not have.

Also, knocking out some misconceptions time!

Just because your tablet can play pretty games, doesn't mean it can emulate pretty games. emulation is an entirely different beast that you can't just say "Well I can play this game designed for my device fine and it looks better."

Also, Wii games aren't necessarily more intensive than GC games. New Super Mario Bros Wii is easily one of the most lightweight games Dolphin emulates. Rogue Squadron for the GC is easily one of the hardest.

Anyways, if you want a good Android device to play Dolphin, you're going to be waiting awhile. None really exist yet. The shield tv comes close because it has good drivers and a decent CPU, but it only plays NSMBW relatively well and a handful of others. The Nexus 5x plays games sort of okay with it's ES 3.2 drivers + buffer_storage, but it throttles to hell and becomes unplayable. So right now you deal with drivers that are behind on what is ideal / buggy, or CPUs that throttle to hell leaving you with a handful of playable games and the rest playing at less than fullspeed, which is terrible UX.
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06-07-2016, 07:31 AM
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JohnML86
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Hello Helios,

Thanks for your help. You helped answer my question regarding getting Dolphin on my Andoid Shield Tablet.

JohnML86
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