Nintendo's disc base

[Yoyoman]

Besides the internet, what other sources can I look to for authority?

[Shonumi]

Read any relevant court cases involving copyright, video games, and/or emulation. Then ask a real IP lawyer. Who knows, maybe a random email will solicit an in-depth analysis (for free!) Just be careful not to dig up biased sources.

[Yoyoman]

But you do believe the ESA right? Because it's an official website and it's the source that told me that ripping games is legal. Also one friend told me that if I really was pirating, the local police would be on me in a matter of minutes.

[ExtremeDude2]

(01-14-2015, 04:14 AM)Yoyoman Wrote: Also one friend told me that if I really was pirating, the local police would be on me in a matter of minutes.

Not really, people do it all the time and nothing usually happens

[Shonumi]

(01-14-2015, 04:14 AM)Yoyoman Wrote: But you do believe the ESA right? Because it's an official website and it's the source that told me that ripping games is legal. Also one friend told me that if I really was pirating, the local police would be on me in a matter of minutes.

It's not so much that I believe the ESA, it's just that their stance on the legal issue aligns with mine. But remember, there are plenty of other "official" sources that will outright lie to you (I'm fairly certain at one point or another the RIAA publicly said CD ripping was illegal...) Some groups have agendas after all. Anyone can say just about anything online, companies and trade groups included. It doesn't matter whether or not they are an "official" source or not if what they're saying isn't backed up by solid facts. I'm hardly saying the ESA is wrong here, just warning you to avoid logical fallacies.

Also, your friend probably knows you're pretty gullible :p

[Yoyoman]

(01-14-2015, 11:43 AM)Shonumi Wrote:

(01-14-2015, 04:14 AM)Yoyoman Wrote: But you do believe the ESA right? Because it's an official website and it's the source that told me that ripping games is legal. Also one friend told me that if I really was pirating, the local police would be on me in a matter of minutes.

Also, your friend probably knows you're pretty gullible :p

What? The local police wouldn't be on me in a matter of minutes?

[Shonumi]

(01-14-2015, 01:49 PM)Yoyoman Wrote: What? The local police wouldn't be on me in a matter of minutes?

No. It'd be a matter of mere seconds /s

At any rate, unless you're establishing a file-sharing empire of some sort, or running a dedicated scene release group, or somehow making incredible profits, copyright infringement is generally a civil matter in the U.S. (meaning you get sued, not arrested) rather than a criminal matter (you know, having an arrest warrant in your name). You can look at what the law defines as criminal offenses of copyright infringement here -> http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap5.html#506 Dumping games for personal use is a far-cry from any of those situations (especially since the dumping itself isn't even infringing to begin with...)

[Yoyoman]

Shonumi, I also found on the RIAA website that ripping CDs aren't piracy.
http://www.riaa.com/physicalpiracy.php?content_selector=piracy_online_the_law

[Shonumi]

(01-14-2015, 02:18 PM)Yoyoman Wrote: Shonumi, I also found on the RIAA website that ripping CDs aren't piracy.
http://www.riaa.com/physicalpiracy.php?content_selector=piracy_online_the_law

Read about the whole controversy on ripping CDs as MP3s. Also check out some of the legal documents they filed in court where they characterize the activity (ripping CDs in general) as illegal. Two-faced tactics at its finest

[Yoyoman]

Do you know the average Pleasantvillle, NJ cop response time if I was doing something illegal?