My Rig hates Windows 7....

Glurion · (This post was last modified: 07-09-2010, 11:48 AM by Glurion.)

Ok so for 10 month my rig has been running Windows 7 x64 Pro, then one day i decide to update my graphics drivers (that went fine), restarted it as you do and since then my rig wont go any further than the boot screen. It'll do the whole starting windows screen, once thats done the screens power button turns orange as if theres no input, and the comp just sits there (pretty nice paperweight...)

So after thinking this was a driver issue i wiped my machine hdd (only the OS one) and tried installing 7 quite a few times, where it would get to the same point everytime....

After 7 installs and a rather angry me i stuck my old friend xp x64 back on which has worked perfectly (on games, on videos, on everything), so after a few weeks i decided lets see if 7 will work now and nope nothing, i then decided (after having installed xp x64 again) to install vista...i hate that OS with a passion but 7 is built off the same code, i didn't think it would.....i was wrong it did again perfectly, tried 7 again after that and still same issue.

So my question is, does anyone know whats going on? I've dealt with windows OS's all my life and never had a problem i couldn't fix till now, check the list below for what i've done;

Wiped and Reinstalled win7 several times in different ways
Tried Win XP & Vista
Tried Running from Onboard VGA instead of PCI DVI
Tried Removing Graphics Card Completely and just using onboard
Redownloaded Win7 discs from uni website & Reburnt disc 3 times (slowest speed possible)

I'm starting to think my computer just doesn't like Windows 7 anymore...

Any help would be great.

Thanks,
Glu

**admin89** · 07-09-2010, 12:09 PM #2

If the clean install doesn't work for you then you can wait next year to buy windows 8 Tongue

obscured · 07-09-2010, 02:53 PM #3

Have you tried the minimalist approach? Take everything out that you don't need in your rig and just leaving your pc barebones. Then try installing windows.

naoan · 07-09-2010, 03:12 PM #4

Maybe a bios problem, try resetting your bios.

**NaturalViolence** · 07-09-2010, 04:16 PM #5

Quote:If the clean install doesn't work for you then you can wait next year to buy windows 8

Actually they pushed the release date back to 2012. And knowing microsoft they will probably delay it again by then.

The only thing I don't understand is you've said that this only happens after you install the video card drivers every time but at the same time you've said that you tried running on onboard vga and that didn't work. Those two things contradict each other, are you saying that it didn't work at all on integrated but on discrete it worked until you installed the drivers? Or are you saying you installed the drivers while running on integrated and that caused it to fail? Were the drivers from the amd website, the included cd, another website, or did win 7 just download/install drivers on it's own?

I would lean towards either a bad driver or insufficient power (since the discrete gpu isn't actually used until the drivers are installed). It's not a bios issue like naoan suggested (no offense), I can tell you that right now. I would definitely try what obscured said and then tell us if it worked, we'll start there. Can you show us which specific drivers were causing this problem?

naoan · (This post was last modified: 07-09-2010, 04:56 PM by naoan.)

Well me and my friend had similar issue with bios as the culprit, but maybe Naturalviolence there has better solution *shrug*

Glurion · 07-09-2010, 11:54 PM #7

(07-09-2010, 04:16 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote:
Quote:If the clean install doesn't work for you then you can wait next year to buy windows 8

Actually they pushed the release date back to 2012. And knowing microsoft they will probably delay it again by then.

The only thing I don't understand is you've said that this only happens after you install the video card drivers every time but at the same time you've said that you tried running on onboard vga and that didn't work. Those two things contradict each other, are you saying that it didn't work at all on integrated but on discrete it worked until you installed the drivers? Or are you saying you installed the drivers while running on integrated and that caused it to fail? Were the drivers from the amd website, the included cd, another website, or did win 7 just download/install drivers on it's own?

I would lean towards either a bad driver or insufficient power (since the discrete gpu isn't actually used until the drivers are installed). It's not a bios issue like naoan suggested (no offense), I can tell you that right now. I would definitely try what obscured said and then tell us if it worked, we'll start there. Can you show us which specific drivers were causing this problem?

Nah mate it only happened the first time after updating drivers, after that i never even got to the login screen, just no video output after the boot screen, and it doesn't seem to be a graphic issue either cause even with my speakers at max you don't hear the login noises and sometimes it even decides to restart itself (passes POST and everything) if you leave it long enough.

(07-09-2010, 02:53 PM)obscured Wrote: Have you tried the minimalist approach? Take everything out that you don't need in your rig and just leaving your pc barebones. Then try installing windows.

Other than just running without the graphics card then no, i might give that a shot if installing it with my nvidia card (should be here soon) doesnt work.

(07-09-2010, 03:12 PM)naoan Wrote: Maybe a bios problem, try resetting your bios.

I May have to give that a try, i have changed a few things but not around the time of this issue popped up (or at least i can't remember me doing them), i have things such as (that i changed myself) legacy usb enabled, speedstep disabled (and any other energy saving features disabled, only CPU restricting that is enabled is the overheat function (and it isn't an overheating issue either, my old air system which i had before never let it go over 55c and now my watercooling system never lets it go over 42c)), and then theres my overclock settings (333x9, PCI-E frequency 100MHz, system memory multiplier 2.4, and system voltage vcore 1.275v), thats about all i changed in it and those weren't recent.

The thing thats getting me is everything about this screams hardware issue but both xpx64 and vista business x64 have worked perfectly, i've even been using xpx64 to play APB and that thing is a right resource hog and i've had no issues other than lag because of the isp being rubbish.

I am tempted to try installing it on my spare 500GB partition on my other hard drive, see if it is a hard drive issue at all.

Arpit · 07-10-2010, 01:39 AM #8

Man, bad luck with you....mine is working fine...maybe you should try using barebone or good bye Win 7...XP is also not bad though...but 7 looks awesome.. Smile

Glurion · 07-10-2010, 02:53 AM #9

Yep i sure miss 7's pretty looks, thats all i miss it for lol, oh well guess i'll have to go back to having xp with royale noir theme. Still don't see how it can all of a sudden decide after 10months it no longer likes 7 though.

Arpit · 07-10-2010, 03:11 AM **#10**

Can you exactly tell me what happens to boot screen after failed 7 boot...??? If you remember..?? Your PC is my dream rig.. Angel