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Mini-ITX Pentium G870 vs. i3-3225
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Mini-ITX Pentium G870 vs. i3-3225
03-28-2013, 06:50 AM (This post was last modified: 03-28-2013, 06:51 AM by NaturalViolence.)
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Xalphenos Wrote:Hd 4000 will not yield significant improvements.

Yes it will. It's 2.5-3 times as fast. It still won't be fast enough for a lot of games even at minimum settings but it is tremendously faster than an HD 2000/2500.

admin89 Wrote:SB Pentium G8xx have Intel® HD Graphics which is slower than Intel HD 2000 (totally garbage )

The Sandy Bridge Intel HD graphics and HD 2000 are the same IGP. The only difference is that certain features are disabled in the drivers when cpu models with the "HD graphics" are detected (quicksync, media insider, hardware accelerated blu-ray 3D decoding, hardware accelerated video post-processing effects, etc.). But they perform exactly the same. The same thing goes for Ivy bridge Intel HD vs. HD 2500.

Protip: The "Intel HD Graphics" name has now been used with 4 completely different IGPs all with completely different architectures, performance, features, drivers, and supported APIs (if you count the upcoming haswell pentium chips which will continue using the name). Intel has invented one of the most confusing product naming systems that I have ever seen.
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03-28-2013, 08:21 AM
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(03-28-2013, 06:50 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote:
Xalphenos Wrote:Hd 4000 will not yield significant improvements.
Yes it will. It's 2.5-3 times as fast. It still won't be fast enough for a lot of games even at minimum settings but it is tremendously faster than an HD 2000/2500.

I concede that point; you are correct. Still the benefits he receives, in dolphin, from upgrading his CPU to one with hd 4000 will pale in comparison to spending that same amount of money on a dedicated video card.
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03-29-2013, 12:08 AM (This post was last modified: 03-29-2013, 12:08 AM by R34P3R.)
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(03-28-2013, 08:21 AM)Xalphenos Wrote: I concede that point; you are correct. Still the benefits he receives, in dolphin, from upgrading his CPU to one with hd 4000 will pale in comparison to spending that same amount of money on a dedicated video card.

I have no room in my ITX Case for dedicated video card ! So i also need to buy a new Case with Power supply... and then im not sure if i can use my SLIM-BluRay drive...

So i need so buy: Videocard, Case, Power Supply (if not included), BluRay Drive... but then i only have the Pentium inside and no new CPU...
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03-29-2013, 12:31 AM
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You won't have to buy another Bluray drive and power supply if you buy this case :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163210
You can mount your current slim drive in it and it has a decent PSU : 450W 80 Plus -> Feel free to install i5 3570k and overclock that i5 to 4.2GHz(with a slim aftermarket cooler)
Graphic card : low power consumption such as EVGA GTX 650 (100$) or AMD 7750 GDDR5 (Not DDR3)
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Clevo W230SS : 3200x1800 IPS | i7 4700MQ @ 3.6GHz (Intel XTU + Triple fan mod) | GTX 860M GDDR5 | 128GB Toshiba CFD SSD | 16GB DDR3L 1600MHz
Aspire 715 43G : 1080p 144Hz |  R5 5625U @ 4.3GHz | Nvidia RTX 3050 4GB | 500GB WD SSD  | 16GB DDR4 3200MHz 
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03-29-2013, 12:39 AM
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Ohh well.. Looks not bad... what about this GPU: AMD HD7750 mutch bader then the GTX650 ?
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03-29-2013, 12:44 AM (This post was last modified: 03-29-2013, 12:45 AM by Xalphenos.)
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It looks like you could mod the case to fit a low profile graphics card. You just have to decide if it's worth the time and effort. As NV said HD 4000 will still not be fast enough for a lot of games even at minimum settings. You mentioned in your first post you wanted to use "2x ir or 4x ssaa" Your not going to be able to do that regardless of what cpu you have without a dedicated graphics card. SSAA is out of the question all together without a complete new system. 4x SSAA chokes my system, 4.5ghz i5 with gtx 660, on recent builds.

So to answer your original questions. No a new cpu won't help you and you shouldn't waste the money upgrading this system. Yes you should just build a new system.

Edit: Guess I left the page up too long. The last two posts weren't here.
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03-29-2013, 12:45 AM (This post was last modified: 03-29-2013, 12:49 AM by admin89.)
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Quote:Is AMD HD7750 much better than the GTX650 ?
Only 7750 GDDR5 version is better but you won't notice any difference in Dolphin . Both of them can do 4xIR(2560x2112) , no AA , 16AF
7750 DDR3 is out of the question
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202002
Laptop: (Show Spoiler)
Clevo W230SS : 3200x1800 IPS | i7 4700MQ @ 3.6GHz (Intel XTU + Triple fan mod) | GTX 860M GDDR5 | 128GB Toshiba CFD SSD | 16GB DDR3L 1600MHz
Aspire 715 43G : 1080p 144Hz |  R5 5625U @ 4.3GHz | Nvidia RTX 3050 4GB | 500GB WD SSD  | 16GB DDR4 3200MHz 
Mini PC :: (Show Spoiler)
G3258 @ 4.6GHz | ELSA GTX 750 | Asrock Z87E ITX | 600W SFX 80+ Gold Silverstone + SG06-LITE | Corsair Vengeance 8GB 2000MHz | Scythe Kozuti + Ao Kaze | 45TB 2.5" Ex HDD (in total) , Zelda Gold Wiimote , LE Wii Classic Controller , Gold LE PS3 DualShock , BlackWidow Chroma ,
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03-29-2013, 12:51 AM
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(03-29-2013, 12:45 AM)admin89 Wrote: Only 7750 GDDR5 version is better but you won't notice any difference in Dolphin . Both of them can do 4xIR(2560x2112) , no AA , 16AF
7750 DDR3 is out of the question
Edit : Here
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202002
wich card i need for 4 - 8x AA ?
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03-29-2013, 12:53 AM
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4xIR + 8x MSAA ?
GTX 660 Ti (not sure ) ,GTX 670 , GTX 680 , GTX Titan , AMD 7950 (not sure) , AMD 7970
Laptop: (Show Spoiler)
Clevo W230SS : 3200x1800 IPS | i7 4700MQ @ 3.6GHz (Intel XTU + Triple fan mod) | GTX 860M GDDR5 | 128GB Toshiba CFD SSD | 16GB DDR3L 1600MHz
Aspire 715 43G : 1080p 144Hz |  R5 5625U @ 4.3GHz | Nvidia RTX 3050 4GB | 500GB WD SSD  | 16GB DDR4 3200MHz 
Mini PC :: (Show Spoiler)
G3258 @ 4.6GHz | ELSA GTX 750 | Asrock Z87E ITX | 600W SFX 80+ Gold Silverstone + SG06-LITE | Corsair Vengeance 8GB 2000MHz | Scythe Kozuti + Ao Kaze | 45TB 2.5" Ex HDD (in total) , Zelda Gold Wiimote , LE Wii Classic Controller , Gold LE PS3 DualShock , BlackWidow Chroma ,
Now Playing : Xenoblade Definitive Edition on Yuzu - Switch Emu 

 
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03-29-2013, 09:18 PM
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Ok Thanks a lot.. ill check my money nect month :-) but first i need to get my Wiimote working... otherwise it make no sense
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