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List of "heavy" requirement GC games?
05-24-2015, 03:54 AM (This post was last modified: 06-11-2015, 01:19 PM by joos.)
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Since there doesn't seem to be a definitive list of how generally difficult certain games are to get up and running on Dolphin on more mainstream PCs, I figured it wouldn't hurt to get something going. It's obviously a WIP, and probably won't ever truly be "final" but it's better than nothing.

I started this because I saw in the CPU Benchmark thread that they broke it down to categories of games (A,B,C,D) with tiers of requirements, but there's also the GPU thread that generally addresses resolutions.  I know many people can more likely play Medium stuff to some degree, but have no clue what falls into that category and below, so I figure if there's a list of the heaviest games that would help folks narrow it down to what they can't play rather than trying to list everything they can.

Feel free to just post the games you know have the high level requirements and I'll keep tabs as best as I can.

Personally, I'd say anything that REQUIRES a 1x in IR to run on moderately reasonable machines should be at least Medium-Light. By moderate machines, I mean something that's maybe 5 years old or less, has at least a Core 2 Quad and has an decent mid-to-lower tier GPU in it. If you can run a game in 1.5x on that level of machine without any special settings, and no issues with sound or notable slowdown, it's absolutely light. If the whole game stutters at 1.5x or it does so frequently on a Core i5 with a ok GPU, it's probably near the Heavy category. If at 1.5x it has occasional hiccups and maybe the sound pops a bit here and there but 90% or more is completely playable without issue, somewhere between Med-High and Heavy.

You gotta use judgment here. Obviously there are a lot of factors that can cause a game to run like crap, but if you look at a reasonable Core 2 Quad / i3 level PC with like a AMD's FirePro V3900 or some other entry level ok GPU and 8GB RAM, and it has issues running at 1.5x then depending on how frequent and harsh the issues are, you can gauge how much higher it needs to go up the scale. If there's a bad sound issue with tracks making annoying noises the whole game, I'd put it in Med somewhere. If it studders a little on 1.5x just on occasion, it's Med-Light or even Light. It just depends on how bad it is and how common those defects are.

So, feel free to gauge how you feel it runs for you and mention what you're running it on, and if your rig plays differently than someone else, it can be adjusted to somewhere in between as needed until they settle somewhere. I just figure there are going to be some really obvious ones out there like Rebel Strike. And it's more helpful to know those ones up front then folks will know what they most likely won't be able to play if they don't invest in a better machine.

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Running list of requirement weights.


HEAVIEST:
Star Wars: Rebel Strike


HEAVY:
Star Wars: Rogue Leader
Metroid Prime
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
Mario Kart DD (Split Screen)
Timesplitters Future Perfect
Super Smash Bros Melee


MEDIUM:
F-Zero GX
The Legend Of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Resident Evil 4
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance


MEDIUM-LIGHT:
Sonic Adventure DX
Skies Of Arcadia Legends


LIGHT:
Luigi's Mansion
Bomberman Generation
Bomberman Jetters
Zelda Four Swords Adventures
Super Mario Sunshine
Eternal Darkness
Kirby Air Ride
Wind Waker
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05-24-2015, 06:16 AM
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- Star Wars: Rogue Leader(Hard)
- Star Wars: Rebel Strike(hardest)
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05-24-2015, 06:26 AM
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Others Heavy games:
Metroid Prime 1 & 2 from GC, 3 & Trilogy from Wii
F-Zero GX
Resident Evil 0 Wii
Resident Evil 4 Wii edition
The Last Story
Mario Kart Wii (Split Screen)
Mario Kart DD (Split Screen)
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05-24-2015, 06:35 AM
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My PC doesn't have specs to better pinpoint the really high demanding games, but I have more than 30 GC games and only 3 are close to or unplayable even with tinkering with the options, so I'm gonna say these are somewhat demanding:

The Legend Of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Sonic Adventure DX
Skies Of Arcadia Legends

And a special mention to Freekstyle that seems to be stuck at 37FPS even on loading screens, CPU Clock Override makes it run at full speed, but unplayable with default settings.
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05-24-2015, 06:50 AM
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Yeah, your Core 2 probably can't run anything in the Medium category, or very few from my experience. I tried initially on a Core 2 then moved to an i5 then i7. I can run a lot of stuff but I haven't really played anything too far. Mostly just short 5-10 minutes tests.

I think those are all Medium titles, but someone please feel free to correct me (and the running list) if I'm wrong.
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05-24-2015, 07:11 AM (This post was last modified: 05-24-2015, 07:11 AM by Pit-O-Matic.)
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Yeah, I really need to upgrade that shit.
However I can run F-Zero GX mostly at full speed and much better than the 3 I mentioned, if F-Zero GX really is on heavy, those 3 should too.
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05-24-2015, 07:25 AM (This post was last modified: 05-24-2015, 07:28 AM by joos.)
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F-Zero GX seems like a really picky/strange one. I don't think the requirements are super heavy so much as it just requires a bunch of tweaking depending on your GPU/CPU as well. Because it seems to run differently on each machine I use and the settings are all different to keep it from crashing. Once I get it to actually RUN on a machine, it doesn't seem to be ridiculously resource intensive.

I found the best overall settings for me were Direct3D, native 1.5x resolution, no v-sync, skip EFB access to cpu, and if you can do 2x antialiasing go for it as a minimum.

Have you actually played it much? Enough to get to Sand Ocean? Because that's kind of the clincher on whether or not you're really able to play it on full. Sand Ocean destroys my machine if I play on anything higher than what I mentioned above.
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05-24-2015, 07:36 AM
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I'm going to add a split Medium tier, because I think you're right though. I don't believe some of these are heavy but I don't think they should fit in Medium too.
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05-24-2015, 07:39 AM (This post was last modified: 05-24-2015, 07:40 AM by Pit-O-Matic.)
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Played through the Story Mode and am currently on Master on Grand Prix as long as Skip EFB Access from CPU is enabled, Sand Ocean isn't a problem.
Though know I remember that it only crash rarely with dual core enabled so I left it on, that might helped me a lot.
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05-24-2015, 07:45 AM
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Heaviest: Super Mario Galaxy

The only game that I have tried that my i5 2500k cant run at stock speeds. In comparison: Metroid Prime runs fine.
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