Laptop/Desktop Conversation

[NaturalViolence]

NaturalViolence Wrote:Then why did you keep insulting us and claiming we were ignorant to the superiority of laptops?

SlickDragon Wrote:People use whatever their comfortable and accustomed to using, even if its strictly inferior to new innovations. For example people who still use the mailing system, dial-up, pay-phones, land-lines, Tube Tv's, and the list goes on. I in no way retract my statements regarding the Deluded, Misguided, and Criminally Ignorant Desktops Supremacists. While I still hold highly of you, in this instance I feel that you may unfortunately still be under the influence of that pernicious and noxious ideology.

SlickDragon Wrote:there is no reason to buy a Desktop.

And there you go again. You've just proved my point for me. Thank you.

And now on to the corrections/comments:

SlickDragon Wrote:With the introduction of the 7970m, a mobile Gpu can now compete with the highest available Nvidia Desktop processor, the Gtx 580

The GTX 580 is not anywhere close to the highest end desktop GPU from nvidia. That spot belongs to the GTX 680 and GTX 690. Not to mention a GTX 580 is faster than a 7970m by quite a bit.

SlickDragon Wrote:Desktop Kepler will actually be available, maybe even by the end of the year

They're already available! Where the hell have you been these last few months?

SlickDragon Wrote:THERE IS NOT A SINGLE GAME ON THE MARKET THAT THE 7970M CAN'T PLAY AT ULTRA SETTINGS WITH FLUID FPS.

I don't read through many game benchmarks these days but off the top of my head I know that both BF3 and metro 2033 require dual GTX 570/580 in SLI to get 60 fps at 1080p on max settings. Besides this is a side effect of cross platform development and the hardware limitations of current generation consoles. PC games will get a lot more demanding once the next generation of consoles comes out (it's depressed to say, but it's the truth).

SlickDragon Wrote:Also Mxm 3.0b may allow laptops to exceed 100w Gpu's, with the rumors of 130-150w as the projected max for Mobile Gpu's, allowing them to effortlessly compete with the highest tier desktop Gpu's.

High tier desktop GPUs are 200-300w not 130-150w.

SlickDragon Wrote:Yet another absurd statement, this time rife with propaganda and ignorance. Who are you to deem Clevo's highest end laptop "Impractical", while never having seen the model in question. Clevo laptops in general are known for their extremely high tier cooling, and they never have had problems in the past cooling Desktop extreme processors.

Please show me a clevo laptop running a 3960x at 4.8GHz under load with good temperatures. I have trouble believing a laptop is capable of dissipating 250w from the cpu efficiently.

SlickDragon Wrote:Sure the laptops will be big, that should be inherently obvious, however any sensible person spending over $2500+ on a true desktop replacement should already know that before deciding to get one. These are not Macbook Air's/Ultrabooks.

If the advantage/goal of a laptop is portability than why would I want a laptop that's big, heavy, and has terrible battery life (and probably loud depending on how they designed the cooling)?

Starscream Wrote:I think his point was not to call you stupid for using a desktop, his point was to call you (or anyone) stupid for saying that a gaming laptop is not good enough to play high-end games just as a desktop can.

SlickDragon Wrote:That is a blunt but accurate summary of my stance and points in that regard. I don't mind if people use desktops, however spewing propaganda and fables regarding their supposed intrinsic superiority to Gaming Laptops gets a bit tiresome and tarnishes the dolphin community.

He was not trying to make a point. In fact he wasn't even responding to anything that anyone said. We hadn't even mentioned laptops vs. desktops until he showed up. He was just trying to rant about how we should all bow down and worship these superior god tier laptops. I still don't understand why he did it, it just kind of came out of nowhere. Please observe these actual quotes from him:

SlickDragon Wrote:It wont be long now before even the most obstinate and foolhardy Desktop Deluded Elitists will be forced to reassess their misguided and ignorant beliefs regarding their supposed supremacy to Gaming Laptops.

SlickDragon Wrote:Until then mayhap as the sensible and intelligent guy that you seem to be you can reconsider your stance and become enlightened to the changes unfolding in computer hardware. For all the desktop fanboys in the emulation scene, you guys can continue living in your fantasy land, and avert your eyes to the winds of change that are coming.

It's a shame. I held him in very high regards until he randomly started talking like a crazed dictator. "Join the master form factor race destined to destroy desktops! The winds of change are coming!".

Quote:Now, back to the real world. When I run Crysis on all high with my high-end laptop, it will be playing at full speed, just like your high-end desktop. That's the point. I guess you guys are never going to understand the real point here. I'm running out of ways to explain this.

You get 60 fps average on crysis on high settings @ 1366 x 768 with a 6650m? I have a hard time believing that since every benchmark I've ever seen on crysis would suggest otherwise. My GTX 260 C 216 has trouble maintaining 60 fps at that resolution and settings and it's more than twice as fast as your 6650m.