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Lag spikes on a fine PC
01-20-2014, 05:03 AM
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One last thing, kinkinkijkin: his CPU temps (he stated it was running at 36° in that moment) are still cool, he won´t have any overheating issues just by pushing a bit (100-200 MHz is a good start, until temps are excessively high. Then he starts to push down and finally set the adequate frequency). All this if he has high-quality thermal paste and a good enough cooler.
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01-20-2014, 05:51 AM (This post was last modified: 01-20-2014, 05:52 AM by kinkinkijkin.)
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36c is an idle temp. CPUs that load hot usually have acceptable idles.
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01-20-2014, 06:57 AM
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Sorry for the big images.
Above there are two screenshots from SSBB during a lag spike.

Besides I'm not asking for a new CPU, I'm asking where the problem lies and if anyone knows a good configuration for my hardware.
I just need to get rid of the lag spikes, that's all...
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01-20-2014, 11:06 AM (This post was last modified: 01-20-2014, 11:08 AM by NaturalViolence.)
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OP hasn't really told us much so far. We still need to know what temps he's getting at load. Whether he's getting stuttering or a permanent framerate drop. His screenshots suggest that latter but I'm not sure until he tells us. And how his performance now compares to his old rig. I can't really tell if he's suggesting that his old system performed better or not so I'm not really sure what the question is at this point.

admin89 Wrote:@NV need to update his Dolphin CPU hierarchy which is really misleading . This is not the first time someone like the @OP complained

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kinkinkijkin Wrote:The highest Core 2 Quads have near-equal IPCs to the FX-6300.

He has an FX-8350 though. Not that it matters.

@mdamax

Those screenshots are useless to us. You took a super high resolution screenshot of all three screens and scaled it down to a low resolution. Which makes the text completely unreadable. Just screenshot the monitor with task manager in it and/or crop it. Then link to the image instead of embedding it into the page.

We need to know your temperatures while running dolphin, what exactly the problem is (stuttering or framerate), and how your new parts affected it (if at all). Do all of the games you listed have this problem or just some of them? Which ones?
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01-20-2014, 11:02 PM (This post was last modified: 01-20-2014, 11:03 PM by mdamax.)
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(01-20-2014, 11:06 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: Those screenshots are useless to us. You took a super high resolution screenshot of all three screens and scaled it down to a low resolution. Which makes the text completely unreadable. Just screenshot the monitor with task manager in it and/or crop it. Then link to the image instead of embedding it into the page.

We need to know your temperatures while running dolphin, what exactly the problem is (stuttering or framerate), and how your new parts affected it (if at all). Do all of the games you listed have this problem or just some of them? Which ones?

Here you go.

Okay so it looks indeed like my CPU is hot, since every time lag spikes occur, my cpu temp hits nearly 58 degrees.
However when playing any PC game it reaches the 60 degrees as well. Is there any other information you need for a correct diagnosis?

And the problem is that its stuttering. Every game I listed has this problem.


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01-21-2014, 07:38 AM
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Have you enforced high performance in windows? Did you check catalyst and make sure there was no room below the max power for throttling?

Also, try locking dolphin to certain cores. I don't know if there's an option for it in dolphin, but you can do it in windows by disabling cores you don't want dolphin to switch to. (windows cycles threads between all cores, and that has a small chance to cause slowdown issues on a more stressed CPU)

Also, try DirectAudio instead of XAudio. I know that differences between the two have caused me issue personally, so it might be so for you as well.
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01-21-2014, 10:03 AM
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mdamax, if that graph's a temperature graph, either you're dripping liquid nitrogen on the thing at a regular interval as its only form of cooling or it's overheating and downclocking itself repeatedly. I'd recommend reapplying the thermal paste and possibly investing in a better cooler. These are the two I usually recommend:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd14

Also, you mentioned you're using Dolphin 4.0? Go get 4.0.2, it's slightly better: https://dolphin-emu.org/download/

kinkinkijkin: XAudio is usually the less-problematic one from what I hear. It's also the one that isn't a deprecated API in Windows. >_> If it works for you, cool, whatever, but it's not gonna stop his CPU from overheating.
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01-21-2014, 10:32 PM (This post was last modified: 01-21-2014, 10:35 PM by mdamax.)
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(01-21-2014, 10:03 AM)pauldacheez Wrote: mdamax, if that graph's a temperature graph, either you're dripping liquid nitrogen on the thing at a regular interval as its only form of cooling or it's overheating and downclocking itself repeatedly. I'd recommend reapplying the thermal paste and possibly investing in a better cooler. These are the two I usually recommend:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd14

Also, you mentioned you're using Dolphin 4.0? Go get 4.0.2, it's slightly better: https://dolphin-emu.org/download/

kinkinkijkin: XAudio is usually the less-problematic one from what I hear. It's also the one that isn't a deprecated API in Windows. >_> If it works for you, cool, whatever, but it's not gonna stop his CPU from overheating.

This is my current cpu cooler, shouldnt it be fine?
Also whenever I turn on my pc after a good night's rest, it barely has lag spikes.
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01-22-2014, 07:42 AM
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It SHOULD be enough to not make your temps so high, did you accidentally put on the whole packet of thermal paste that they give you?

(I'd be really surprised if you did, they give you five computers' worth of the stuff)
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01-22-2014, 08:32 AM
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(01-22-2014, 07:42 AM)kinkinkijkin Wrote: It SHOULD be enough to not make your temps so high, did you accidentally put on the whole packet of thermal paste that they give you?

(I'd be really surprised if you did, they give you five computers' worth of the stuff)

I guess I already fixed it by tweaking my voltage to 1.35V. Ive been playing for half an hour and had no lag spikes at all.

If otherwise Ill be back soon. Thank you all for your time and effort though.
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