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is AMD A10-6800K good for dolphin?
09-15-2014, 12:55 AM
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Hey there, I'm building a new gaming PC with a budget and I want to know the best processor I can have with the price.

Currently I'm looking for a AMD A10-6800K (recommended by a couple of friends)

The full list goes:
Motherboard: Asus F2A85-M PRO Micro ATX FM2
RAM: G.Skill RipjawsX DDR3 1600 Mhz 8 GB
CPU: AMD A10 6800K Black Edition 4.4 GHz FM2-
GPU: Palit GTX 660 Ti JetStream edition 2048MB
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional - OEM / 64-bit

If you have a better suggestion for Mobo/CPU for roughly the same price, go ahead.
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09-15-2014, 01:26 AM (This post was last modified: 09-15-2014, 01:32 AM by admin89.)
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That's pretty horrible build . If you want to build an APU system , you will have to dump that Nvidia card and get an AMD GPU because APU's iGPU can crossfire
Btw , getting a dedicated GPU for an APU is pointless .
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09-15-2014, 01:48 AM
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Okay, but what should I use then? I was planning for an i7, but my wallet has it's limitations. The AMD APU was the cheapest choice.
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09-15-2014, 03:02 AM (This post was last modified: 09-15-2014, 03:08 AM by admin89.)
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Not all i7 are good for Dolphin , some i7 are even weaker than lastest i3
The 3 best CPUs for Dolphin atm are i7 4790k @ 4.7GHz , i5 4690k @ 4.7GHz and Pentium 20th Anniversary G3258 @ 4.7GHz . Since Dolphin is a dual core application , those CPUs have similar performance
See , Unofficial Dolphin Benchmark
https://forums.dolphin-emu.org/Thread-2014-08-29-asrock-visionx-420d-%E3%80%80dolphin-cpu-benchmark-anandtech-hw-canucks
AMD CPUs usually have multi-cores but lack of performance per core . Therefore , AMD CPUs are good at multi-threaded performance and bad at single/dual threaded performance
Base on our official Benchmark , the fastest 8 cores FX-8350 @ 5.0GHz (suicide overclock) is still slower than dual core Intel i3 4130 @ 3.4GHz
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkEUvobPn_DcdEo2aEhhdUpnU01tYUtNM3ZVX2d6SkE&usp=sharing#gid=0

If you live in US , you can get the little monster Pentium G3258 + MSI Z97 for only $100 or even less (after debate) . Pentium doesn't need extra cooling for overclocking .
http://www.microcenter.com/site/brands/g3258bundle.aspx

If you don't then just pair the Pentium with Asrock Z97 Anniversary
AMD A10 6800k is fast enough for most games but demanding games are out of the question . Nvidia GTX 800 series is about to be released soon , it's not wise to buy Kepler GPU atm
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Aspire 715 43G : 1080p 144Hz |  R5 5625U @ 4.3GHz | Nvidia RTX 3050 4GB | 500GB WD SSD  | 16GB DDR4 3200MHz 
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G3258 @ 4.6GHz | ELSA GTX 750 | Asrock Z87E ITX | 600W SFX 80+ Gold Silverstone + SG06-LITE | Corsair Vengeance 8GB 2000MHz | Scythe Kozuti + Ao Kaze | 45TB 2.5" Ex HDD (in total) , Zelda Gold Wiimote , LE Wii Classic Controller , Gold LE PS3 DualShock , BlackWidow Chroma ,
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09-15-2014, 03:18 AM
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(09-15-2014, 03:02 AM)admin89 Wrote: Not all i7 are good for Dolphin , some i7 are even weaker than lastest i3
The 3 best CPUs for Dolphin atm are i7 4790k @ 4.7GHz , i5 4690k @ 4.7GHz and Pentium 20th Anniversary G3258 @ 4.7GHz . Since Dolphin is a dual core application , those CPUs have similar performance
See , Unofficial Dolphin Benchmark
https://forums.dolphin-emu.org/Thread-2014-08-29-asrock-visionx-420d-%E3%80%80dolphin-cpu-benchmark-anandtech-hw-canucks
AMD CPUs usually have multi-cores but lack of performance per core . Therefore , AMD CPUs are good at multi-threaded performance and bad at single/dual threaded performance
Base on our official Benchmark , the fastest 8 cores FX-8350 @ 5.0GHz (suicide overclock) is still slower than dual core Intel i3 4130 @ 3.4GHz
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkEUvobPn_DcdEo2aEhhdUpnU01tYUtNM3ZVX2d6SkE&usp=sharing#gid=0
If you live in US , you can get the little monster Pentium G3258 + MSI Z97 for only $100 or even less (after debate) . Pentium doesn't need extra cooling for overclocking .
http://www.microcenter.com/site/brands/g3258bundle.aspx

If you don't then just pair the Pentium with Asrock Z97 Anniversary
AMD A10 6800k is fast enough for most games but demanding games are out of the question . Nvidia GTX 800 series are about to be released soon , it's not wise to buy Kepler GPU atm

Big thanks to you.
I'm not building the PC exclusively for Dolphin; I edit videos, in which the rendering requires multiple cores and I look forward to playing modern, rather demanding games where more that 2 cores help a lot, so I think I'm going for i5 4690K, despite it being 100€ more expensive than A10 6800K.

Side question: does i5 4690K perform well at stock clock? I'm not good at overclocking and I don't trust my CPU cooler, it being quite a cheap one.
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09-15-2014, 03:40 AM (This post was last modified: 09-15-2014, 03:57 AM by admin89.)
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If you don't overclock then just get Xeon E3-1230V3 (basically an i7 4770 4 cores 8 threads without integrated GPU , it's as cheap as i5 4690k but it has the performance as an i7 4770) + Dirt cheap Asrock B85 mobo
i5 4690k or Xeon (stock) is twice as fast as A10 6800k in Dolphin
Edit : not GTX 800 series but GTX 900 series is about to be released soon .I forgot Nvidia has skipped their 800 series . GTX 900 series is based on latest Nvidia Maxwell architecture . Only 2 GPU Maxwell are available atm : GTX 750 and GTX 750ti . GTX 750ti power consumption is 2.5 times lower than GTX 660 Ti and it's a very fast GPU
Laptop: (Show Spoiler)
Clevo W230SS : 3200x1800 IPS | i7 4700MQ @ 3.6GHz (Intel XTU + Triple fan mod) | GTX 860M GDDR5 | 128GB Toshiba CFD SSD | 16GB DDR3L 1600MHz
Aspire 715 43G : 1080p 144Hz |  R5 5625U @ 4.3GHz | Nvidia RTX 3050 4GB | 500GB WD SSD  | 16GB DDR4 3200MHz 
Mini PC :: (Show Spoiler)
G3258 @ 4.6GHz | ELSA GTX 750 | Asrock Z87E ITX | 600W SFX 80+ Gold Silverstone + SG06-LITE | Corsair Vengeance 8GB 2000MHz | Scythe Kozuti + Ao Kaze | 45TB 2.5" Ex HDD (in total) , Zelda Gold Wiimote , LE Wii Classic Controller , Gold LE PS3 DualShock , BlackWidow Chroma ,
Now Playing : Xenoblade Definitive Edition on Yuzu - Switch Emu 

 
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09-15-2014, 05:57 AM
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The Xeon you recommended is not available here in Finland atm, dunno if it's gone out of market or is upcoming sometime soon. Also I can get a GTX 660 Ti cheaper than a 750 Ti, and to my knowledge GTX 660 Ti is slightly better than a 750 Ti. Also I won't worry about power consumption, I'm going for a 600w PSU to have upgradeability to better processors and GPUs in the future.
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