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I've never had wiimotes work with Dolphin, ever.
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I've never had wiimotes work with Dolphin, ever.
03-08-2013, 01:07 PM (This post was last modified: 03-08-2013, 01:12 PM by SiriusTexra.)
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People were raving about Dolphin and how emulators are great etc etc. They said you can just use your wiimotes with your PC....


I've looked tirelessly online, youtube video after youtube video, user forums after user forum, to no avail.

I can't get my wiimotes to work properly. The cursor doesn't work at all. I've even tried a friends wiimotes as well, same thing.

They connect, they "work" but the pointer stuff doesn't work at all in the slightest, it's skittish and flying around everywhere or I have to point behind me for it to go somewhere and many more silly things.....and skyward sword won't even let me start the game because of dolphin not finding motion plus or something even though it's clearly built into my wiimotes...

I've tried like 3 sensor bars and 2 different sets of controllers and I'm about to try my nephews wiimotes...surely this is a major flaw? No one told me the wiimotes don't work properly therefore most games can't work.

I'm annoyed because today I just bought brand new ones thinking the ones I bought last year must be broken or faulty in someway, and these don't work either!

I'm just really sick of this and going through all this effort people telling me it's easy when it's not. If I can't use the wii pointer, what's the point?

I have no issues running the games, at maximum resolution and AA settings, very little framedrops or artifacts or anything. The experience is almost perfect with one thing breaking the entire thing: controllers.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, signing up here to ask people directly is basically my last resort.
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03-08-2013, 02:05 PM (This post was last modified: 03-08-2013, 02:07 PM by pauldacheez.)
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Sounds like you have no sensor bar (or a faulty one) or you have a few stray sources of infrared light (e.g. sunlight, light bulbs) in the room you're playing in - the Wii Remote estimates its position on the screen by tracking the two infrared lights in the sensor bar, so any other infrared lights will screw with it. Try getting rid of those if you can. There's also a sensitivity setting in the Wii Remote options - increase it if the remote has trouble detecting the sensor bar, decrease it if it detects too many other infrared sources.

As for Skyward Sword not detecting the MotionPlus, I believe it's an issue I've heard of before, but I don't know the solution off the top of my head. v_v
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03-08-2013, 02:07 PM
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Give us more info. What wiimotes have you tried? Official Nintendo, or third party? What bluetooth adapter do you have? What Bluetooth stack are you using? What dolphin revision are you using? 3.0+ is not a dolphin revision. Have you tried the newer releases with real wiimote pairing? We need specifics. Waxing poetic about how something doesn't work isn't going to help get your problem solved. Also, with all that searching you've done why is the official dolphin forums your "last resort" should have been your first.
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03-08-2013, 02:18 PM (This post was last modified: 03-08-2013, 02:19 PM by SiriusTexra.)
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(03-08-2013, 02:07 PM)Xalphenos Wrote: Give us more info. What wiimotes have you tried? Official Nintendo, or third party? What bluetooth adapter do you have? What Bluetooth stack are you using? What dolphin revision are you using? 3.0+ is not a dolphin revision. Have you tried the newer releases with real wiimote pairing? We need specifics. Waxing poetic about how something doesn't work isn't going to help get your problem solved. Also, with all that searching you've done why is the official dolphin forums your "last resort" should have been your first.
I didn't know there were any other kinds. I just bought whatever the store has, I assume they're official...they're from nintendo...somewhere I read once that "newer wiimotes" with the motion plus have problems or something, but I can't get any other controllers, I never bought a wii at launch so I don't have the old old ones.

My bluetooth adapter is some generic one I don't know the name of, recommended by people who use dolphin. It works to get the remotes connected as well as make my ps3 controllers work fine through motionjoy etc. The wiimotes work, just the cursor/motionplus stuff doesn't at all.

I've tried the sensor bar being plugged into the actual wii (my controllers work just fine there), I've tried a duracell wii sensor bar and a friends 3rd party one too. I've tried the candles thing too.

The wiimote/dolphin doesn't even feel like it's using a sensor bar. When I have them on or off/candles or no candles it makes no difference what so ever. If I have the wiimote pointed at my screen it works, but as soon as I move around a bit it gets more and more off center and just becomes unusable if you move it in any real way. It feels like it's getting the position from something completely unrelated to infrared, like it's just going off the rotational stuff or soemthing.

I'm using whatever the latest dolphin is from earlier this year (I don't know how to check this) I thought it was 3."something" or maybe it was a 4 I dunno. Just whatever december/january is. I did update today though before I made this thread but no difference what so ever.

I can play games fine with the controller if it doesn't require pointer controls (NSMB, Donkey Kong) but any of the games I want to play I can't.
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03-08-2013, 07:12 PM
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I can only guess that you are too close to your sensor bar.
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03-08-2013, 11:10 PM (This post was last modified: 03-08-2013, 11:12 PM by LordVador.)
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Your pointer's behavior doesn't look really different than the one you'd get on a real Wii Big Grin .

Do as Billiard said. Don't be so close to your screen. 2 or 3 meters minimum. And don't play in windowed mode Tongue .

You can also try to change sensor bar position. "Bottom" rather than "Top". Bottom position may work better.

For Zelda SS put down your Wiimote on a flat and stable surface. Don't touch it and let the game calibrate. It may be long sometimes. You may have to stop the game and restart too
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03-11-2013, 02:44 PM (This post was last modified: 03-11-2013, 03:04 PM by SiriusTexra.)
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(03-08-2013, 11:10 PM)LordVador Wrote: Your pointer's behavior doesn't look really different than the one you'd get on a real Wii Big Grin .

Do as Billiard said. Don't be so close to your screen. 2 or 3 meters minimum. And don't play in windowed mode Tongue .

You can also try to change sensor bar position. "Bottom" rather than "Top". Bottom position may work better.

For Zelda SS put down your Wiimote on a flat and stable surface. Don't touch it and let the game calibrate. It may be long sometimes. You may have to stop the game and restart too
I'm not close to my screen. This is at the TV. I also don't play in windowed mode, I never even said that.

I've changed the sensor bar setting back and forth many times. Skyward sword literally can't find the motion plus. It's built into my damn wiiremote, so that game I can't even get to the damn menu.

General pointer games are just plain broken though, so I doubt a motion plus game even if it worked would result better.

It feels like dolphin just doesn't work with wiimotes or something. I plug into an actual wii right next to my HTPC in teh same spot next to my tv. I sit at my couch with my sensor bar, I use my controllers in skyward just fine. I bluetooth them to my PC, they connect fine, I run the games, walah, terrible. Pointer stuff doesn't work even a little bit.

It boggles me because I've seen many people post screenshots on various forums of skyward sword, yet I'm starting to believe it's all lies as I can't see how it's possible to even play the game without some strange xbox+mouse hack thing setup.

Another of my friends is having the same exact problem. Wiimotes don't work with dolphin.

Also, what is the "hybrid" option in the wii controls menu?

Btw, my wiimote shows up as:

Nintendo RVL-CNT-01

in the bluetooth panel if that helps. Searches bring up lots of results for "RVL-CNT-01 TR" . I literally have no cursor what so ever in games, for instance, when in super mario galaxy it says "point at the screen" no matter where I point this thing, up down round and round it changes absolutely nothing. I've tried candles, being far, close, doesn't seem to matter at all in the slightest.
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03-11-2013, 03:31 PM
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Ok, new development. If I point my wiimote at my window if I'm sitting in an exact part of the living room, the cursor shows and flickers around madly...it seems like it's going off....sunlight??? I thought uv filled sunlight was the complete opposite of infrared which is what the IR is trying to find?
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03-12-2013, 03:55 AM
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If you're using a sensor bar plugged into the Wii, it's not on while the Wii's not on. Try connecting the remote to Dolphin, then turning on the Wii and leaving it idle while you play a game in Dolphin.

Sunlight isn't exclusively UV light - it contains a wide range of lights, which includes UV, IR, and everything in between (visible light).
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03-12-2013, 04:44 AM
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Have you tried Toshiba Stack? It probably solve your issue with Zelda Skyward Sword...
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