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I've just got to say something. (Mods, please read)
08-01-2009, 03:19 AM (This post was last modified: 08-01-2009, 06:00 AM by EviLCorsaiR1.)
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EDIT: I'd appreciate it if a mod/admin would lock this now, and before they do I'd appreciate it if nobody would post and would let this thread die. My question's been resolved and I've been proved wrong, I'm leaving the below undeleted as it's been quoted anyway so there's no point in deleting it.

I don't know if the moderator/admin is still on who did so, but I made an account about, I don't know, half an hour ago and asked a question. Because the question concerned a downloaded game the account was banned about two minutes later. (I have to say, at least the mods are quick...)

Now then, and mods/admins I would appreciate it if you read through this before banning me if you find it necessary. Yes, I've downloaded a gamecube game, which is breaking the law. And then emulated it (or rather attempted to), further breaking the law. Except, I never broke the law. I am under the understanding and, someone please correct me if I'm wrong, provided you own the original game it is NOT against the law to download the game ROM and emulate it. And in the case of the game in question (Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker), I own the original game. Therefore, even though I downloaded it, I am not breaking the law. For those mods/admins that have actually read through this, thank you for reading and again please do correct me if I'm wrong about this. I would appreciate it if necessary if you delete/lock this thread if you consider me to still be breaking the rules, but I would rather you do not ban my account and I will not discuss downloaded games again. (Admittedly I never read through the forum rules the first time, yes call me lazy, but I have now.)

The reason I downloaded it was 1. I have no idea how to extract the game files from a Gamecube disk, and 2. The disk is currently 3,500 miles away as I'm on holiday and will be for another month, so even if I found out how it would do me no good (hence the reason I never asked about that instead).

If someone would be kind enough to answer my original question, please do: When I downloaded it it was in 24 seperate RAR archives each one containing a .iso file. What do I do with them to make the complete game?

Also to make this a bit more related to the forum section in question, is there any chance of quad core support any time in the near future for Dolphin? Or would it require a significant change in coding that would make it not worth it for a while to come? I for one would like to see quad core support.

Thanks in advance to those who answer my questions, and to any mods/admins who actually read through this and acknowledge my points without banning me at the first sight of the word 'downloaded'.
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08-01-2009, 03:23 AM (This post was last modified: 08-01-2009, 03:24 AM by THELUKESTIR.)
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(08-01-2009, 03:19 AM)EviLCorsaiR1 Wrote: I don't know if the moderator/admin is still on who did so, but I made an account about, I don't know, half an hour ago and asked a question. Because the question concerned a downloaded game the account was banned about two minutes later. (I have to say, at least the mods are quick...)

Now then, and mods/admins I would appreciate it if you read through this before banning me if you find it necessary. Yes, I've downloaded a gamecube game, which is breaking the law. And then emulated it (or rather attempted to), further breaking the law. Except, I never broke the law. I am under the understanding and, someone please correct me if I'm wrong, provided you own the original game it is NOT against the law to download the game ROM and emulate it. And in the case of the game in question (Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker), I own the original game. Therefore, even though I downloaded it, I am not breaking the law. For those mods/admins that have actually read through this, thank you for reading and again please do correct me if I'm wrong about this. I would appreciate it if necessary if you delete/lock this thread if you consider me to still be breaking the rules, but I would rather you do not ban my account and I will not discuss downloaded games again. (Admittedly I never read through the forum rules the first time, yes call me lazy, but I have now.)

The reason I downloaded it was 1. I have no idea how to extract the game files from a Gamecube disk, and 2. The disk is currently 3,500 miles away as I'm on holiday and will be for another month, so even if I found out how it would do me no good (hence the reason I never asked about that instead).

If someone would be kind enough to answer my original question, please do: When I downloaded it it was in 24 seperate RAR archives each one containing a .iso file. What do I do with them to make the complete game?

Also to make this a bit more related to the forum section in question, is there any chance of quad core support any time in the near future for Dolphin? Or would it require a significant change in coding that would make it not worth it for a while to come? I for one would like to see quad core support.

Thanks in advance to those who answer my questions, and to any mods/admins who actually read through this and acknowledge my points without banning me at the first sight of the word 'downloaded'.

It is only legal if you own the game and rip it yourself. You got banned for discussing warez and you might get banned again for circumnavigating a ban. You obviously didn't read the rules at all. And there will be no quad core support for dolphin.
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08-01-2009, 03:27 AM (This post was last modified: 08-01-2009, 03:28 AM by EviLCorsaiR1.)
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(08-01-2009, 03:23 AM)THELUKESTIR Wrote: It is only legal if you own the game and rip it yourself. You got banned for discussing warez and you might get banned again for circumnavigating a ban. You obviously didn't read the rules at all. And there will be no quad core support for dolphin.

Okay, so downloading it is against the law even if you own it? From what I've read up on about ROMs online and on many ROM download sites it says 'This is legal provided you own the original game' or something along those lines.

I only really circumnavigated the ban to bring this point across to the admins so I don't really care about being banned again, and in all fairness I was banned within about five minutes of account creation without any awareness of the rules...I am aware now.

I am aware that what I am doing right now is breaking the rules but really I just want to bring this point to the admins and see what they have to say. After I get an answer from an admin I am alright with this thread being locked/deleted and I won't discuss any of this again, as pointed out in my original post.

Why will there be no quad core support? That seems pretty disappointing to me, as a quad core owner...Sad
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08-01-2009, 03:30 AM
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(08-01-2009, 03:27 AM)EviLCorsaiR1 Wrote:
(08-01-2009, 03:23 AM)THELUKESTIR Wrote: It is only legal if you own the game and rip it yourself. You got banned for discussing warez and you might get banned again for circumnavigating a ban. You obviously didn't read the rules at all. And there will be no quad core support for dolphin.

Okay, so downloading it is against the law even if you own it? From what I've read up on about ROMs online and on many ROM download sites it says 'This is legal provided you own the original game' or something along those lines.

I only really circumnavigated the ban to bring this point across to the admins so I don't really care about being banned again, and in all fairness I was banned within about five minutes of account creation without any awareness of the rules...I am aware now.

I am aware that what I am doing right now is breaking the rules but really I just want to bring this point to the admins and see what they have to say. After I get an answer from an admin I am alright with this thread being locked/deleted and I won't discuss any of this again, as pointed out in my original post.

Why will there be no quad core support? That seems pretty disappointing to me, as a quad core owner...Sad

The wiis CPU is emulated on one core and the GPU is seperated on another core. Using more than 2 cores would make it a nightmare to code and wouldn't bring much more performance to dolphin... and i just told you its only legal if you rip it... im not sure about games before the gamecube but you have to rip your own wii/gc games
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08-01-2009, 03:34 AM
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(08-01-2009, 03:30 AM)THELUKESTIR Wrote: The wiis CPU is emulated on one core and the GPU is seperated on another core. Using more than 2 cores would make it a nightmare to code and wouldn't bring much more performance to dolphin... and i just told you its only legal if you rip it... im not sure about games before the gamecube but you have to rip your own wii/gc games

Ah, alright, maybe the law only belongs to older games as the ROM sites I've looked at never have the likes of GC/Wii games. (And they are actual sites, not warez before anyone gets started on that...>.>)

Thanks for helping me understand about the quad core issue. I see now...yea, that would be very difficult to code it. I guess it wouldn't bring much performance seeming as the GC is a weaker console and doesn't require too much power compared to other consoles like the PS2 and Xbox...is that what you meant?

Are there any good guides to ripping it that you would recommend? Thanks.
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08-01-2009, 03:37 AM
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(08-01-2009, 03:34 AM)EviLCorsaiR1 Wrote:
(08-01-2009, 03:30 AM)THELUKESTIR Wrote: The wiis CPU is emulated on one core and the GPU is seperated on another core. Using more than 2 cores would make it a nightmare to code and wouldn't bring much more performance to dolphin... and i just told you its only legal if you rip it... im not sure about games before the gamecube but you have to rip your own wii/gc games

Ah, alright, maybe the law only belongs to older games as the ROM sites I've looked at never have the likes of GC/Wii games. (And they are actual sites, not warez before anyone gets started on that...>.>)

Thanks for helping me understand about the quad core issue. I see now...yea, that would be very difficult to code it. I guess it wouldn't bring much performance seeming as the GC is a weaker console and doesn't require too much power compared to other consoles like the PS2 and Xbox...is that what you meant?

Are there any good guides to ripping it that you would recommend? Thanks.

I'm sure there are a few good ripping guides on the forums now... not sure what one is best, might as well check a few out to see which one fits what you have to work with seing how there are a few different methods... easiest is using a certain type of lg drive... and what i mean by it wouldnt give much performance boost with 4 cores is that It would take more processing power to use all the cores and wouldnt give much benifit... I dont see it happening ever
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(08-01-2009, 03:37 AM)THELUKESTIR Wrote: I'm sure there are a few good ripping guides on the forums now... not sure what one is best, might as well check a few out to see which one fits what you have to work with seing how there are a few different methods... easiest is using a certain type of lg drive... and what i mean by it wouldnt give much performance boost with 4 cores is that It would take more processing power to use all the cores and wouldnt give much benifit... I dont see it happening ever

Alright, I'll have a look around thanks. Will it require a different computer drive though? I'm using a gaming laptop and while I haven't tried the drive on it yet to see if it reads GC disks, I definetely won't be able to change drives.

Ahh I see now about the quad core...That's a big shame. If quad cores could be utilised it would provide a nice performance boost for people that have them but it doesn't seem likely.
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There's a few reasons why downloading games are illegal, even if you own them (It's legal in some countries because of lacking copyright laws, but few people lives there)
First of all, is that the people sharing you the game, is breaking the law by distributing it. By downloading the game you contribute to them breaking the law. (And you "support" them) Also the games have specific regions (PAL version and NTSC version are two different products, also there's country codes, so in court they may say you didn't have the original product if you downloaded another version than yours)
the above is just the obvious I could think off. Anyway, for the forum's sake, all discussion of downloading game is forbidden due to contract with the host, which obviously doesn't want affiliation with any possible illegal activity.

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(08-01-2009, 03:41 AM)EviLCorsaiR1 Wrote:
(08-01-2009, 03:37 AM)THELUKESTIR Wrote: I'm sure there are a few good ripping guides on the forums now... not sure what one is best, might as well check a few out to see which one fits what you have to work with seing how there are a few different methods... easiest is using a certain type of lg drive... and what i mean by it wouldnt give much performance boost with 4 cores is that It would take more processing power to use all the cores and wouldnt give much benifit... I dont see it happening ever

Alright, I'll have a look around thanks. Will it require a different computer drive though? I'm using a gaming laptop and while I haven't tried the drive on it yet to see if it reads GC disks, I definetely won't be able to change drives.

Ahh I see now about the quad core...That's a big shame. If quad cores could be utilised it would provide a nice performance boost for people that have them but it doesn't seem likely.

I'n theory it would give a big performance boost but in reality it wont like i said above
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(08-01-2009, 03:43 AM)KHRZ Wrote: There's a few reasons why downloading games are illegal, even if you own them (It's legal in some countries because of lacking copyright laws, but few people lives there)
First of all, is that the people sharing you the game, is breaking the law by distributing it. By downloading the game you contribute to them breaking the law. (And you "support" them) Also the games have specific regions (PAL version and NTSC version are two different products, also there's country codes, so in court they may say you didn't have the original product if you downloaded another version than yours)
the above is just the obvious I could think off. Anyway, for the forum's sake, all discussion of downloading game is forbidden due to contract with the host, which obviously doesn't want affiliation with any possible illegal activity.

BTW I'm not an admin and I didn't ban you.

Yeah, I understand. After all the forum host wouldn't want any company sueing them for discussing the downloading of their games. Although at one time when I was younger I was told by someone that while it's illegal to distribute copied games it isn't to download/purchase copied games...I guess that's not true anymore (if it ever was), is it?
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