I would like to take this oppurtunity to correct many false statements in this thread.
-ATI will not have a 5900 series, where on earth did you get that from? They already posted their roadmap for the next year you can look it up online. Expect the 5870X2 in a month (it's listed as late Q4 2009), the 5670 and 5650 are coming in Q1 2010 and the 5550 and 5450 are coming in Q2 2010.
*they already have a working GPU have already taped out the A1 silicon, they just don't have it on a cideo card board yet, how can possible say they barely have something on paper? They designed the architecture years ago, they have already demoed it for gods sakes!
*Your thinking of physx not cuda, and who the h*ll uses both an ATI and nvidia gpu at the same time?
*Not even going to comment on that
*....wtf are you talking about? It already does. Regardless of whether you have an ATI card or an nvidia card their are a variety of organizations out their doing gpu based folding with gpgpu for cancer research, many of them are large scale
*Not true, battleforge will be the first dx11 game with a patch next month. But then again they never said that and nvidia is coming out with it's GTX380/360/395 cards in mid december (they continue to both tell us they are sitll on track for that date and continue to prove it since they already started taping the silicon) based on fermi and that supports dx11
*It can, you'de have to be an idiot to think otherwise. Antivirus scans are heavily bottlenecked by CPU's, using GPGPU would speed up scans exponentially, to the point where the HDD became the bottleneck.
*My god man, "some speaker", how much hate do you have? What would you have them do? Not send speakers to talk about upcoming technology? Stay out of the spotlight for all eternity? Not to mention they admitted it wasn't a real fermi video card 2 hours after that conference. That doesn't mean the GPU isn't real, it's just on a gigantic board at the moment.
For all of you who doubt nvidia will ever bounce back (yes even as an nvidia fanboy I admit that ATI has been kicking their ass the last year) please go read the fermi whitepages. And understand that fermi is not just for professional purposes, it is going to be used for 300 series as well. It's just the reverse. For as long as I can remember nvidia has done the standard process of creating a new geforce architecture then binning it differently to create a quadro card. Fermi is the reverse, they created a tesla architecture and are going to binn it differently to create their next geforce series. Quadro and geforce cards use the same architecture they are just binned differently, geforce cards have some of the programmability features locked for performance reasons and are not given as much video memory, they also have a different firmware and use different drivers, but on a hardware level they are virtually the same.
In the meantime I will respect any person with an ATI card due to the better thermal efficiency, smaller boards, dx10.1/11 support, energy efficiency, DDR5 video ram, lower prices, eyefinity, better after market cooling support, and higher shading throughput. But anyone who acts like they are better than me automatically just because they use an ATI card is going to get a serious flame response from me. They are different, not better. Why would you want ATI to completely destroy nvidia? Balance is good. If we have only 1 strong contender than video card prices will become super high and innovation and progression will nearly slow to a halt. Remember that nvidia still has cuda, better linux support, mac support (you can run a hackintosh with an nvidia card), stereoscopic and colorscopic, ambient occlusion, physx, higher bitwidth, a better control panel, game profiles, and overall better drivers. They also had better multimonitor support before eyefinity came around. Overall nvidia tends to have better software while ATI tends to have better hardware, it's been this way for almost as long as I can remember. I am afraid this post is going to end up being so long that the forum won;t let me post it so I'll save the rest for later.
-ATI will not have a 5900 series, where on earth did you get that from? They already posted their roadmap for the next year you can look it up online. Expect the 5870X2 in a month (it's listed as late Q4 2009), the 5670 and 5650 are coming in Q1 2010 and the 5550 and 5450 are coming in Q2 2010.
Quote:NVidia is already fighting this.
* Showing 'Fermi' specifications when they barely have something in paper
* Disabling CUDA when a secondary ATI video card is detected
* Saying 'Fermi' chip would be able to run a OS
* Saying GPGPU will help fight breast cancer
* Saying DX11 games will start showing up in 12 months
* Saying CUDA will increase antiviruses' scanning speed
* Sending some speaker to talk about and hold a fake GT300 card in his hand
*they already have a working GPU have already taped out the A1 silicon, they just don't have it on a cideo card board yet, how can possible say they barely have something on paper? They designed the architecture years ago, they have already demoed it for gods sakes!
*Your thinking of physx not cuda, and who the h*ll uses both an ATI and nvidia gpu at the same time?
*Not even going to comment on that
*....wtf are you talking about? It already does. Regardless of whether you have an ATI card or an nvidia card their are a variety of organizations out their doing gpu based folding with gpgpu for cancer research, many of them are large scale
*Not true, battleforge will be the first dx11 game with a patch next month. But then again they never said that and nvidia is coming out with it's GTX380/360/395 cards in mid december (they continue to both tell us they are sitll on track for that date and continue to prove it since they already started taping the silicon) based on fermi and that supports dx11
*It can, you'de have to be an idiot to think otherwise. Antivirus scans are heavily bottlenecked by CPU's, using GPGPU would speed up scans exponentially, to the point where the HDD became the bottleneck.
*My god man, "some speaker", how much hate do you have? What would you have them do? Not send speakers to talk about upcoming technology? Stay out of the spotlight for all eternity? Not to mention they admitted it wasn't a real fermi video card 2 hours after that conference. That doesn't mean the GPU isn't real, it's just on a gigantic board at the moment.
For all of you who doubt nvidia will ever bounce back (yes even as an nvidia fanboy I admit that ATI has been kicking their ass the last year) please go read the fermi whitepages. And understand that fermi is not just for professional purposes, it is going to be used for 300 series as well. It's just the reverse. For as long as I can remember nvidia has done the standard process of creating a new geforce architecture then binning it differently to create a quadro card. Fermi is the reverse, they created a tesla architecture and are going to binn it differently to create their next geforce series. Quadro and geforce cards use the same architecture they are just binned differently, geforce cards have some of the programmability features locked for performance reasons and are not given as much video memory, they also have a different firmware and use different drivers, but on a hardware level they are virtually the same.
In the meantime I will respect any person with an ATI card due to the better thermal efficiency, smaller boards, dx10.1/11 support, energy efficiency, DDR5 video ram, lower prices, eyefinity, better after market cooling support, and higher shading throughput. But anyone who acts like they are better than me automatically just because they use an ATI card is going to get a serious flame response from me. They are different, not better. Why would you want ATI to completely destroy nvidia? Balance is good. If we have only 1 strong contender than video card prices will become super high and innovation and progression will nearly slow to a halt. Remember that nvidia still has cuda, better linux support, mac support (you can run a hackintosh with an nvidia card), stereoscopic and colorscopic, ambient occlusion, physx, higher bitwidth, a better control panel, game profiles, and overall better drivers. They also had better multimonitor support before eyefinity came around. Overall nvidia tends to have better software while ATI tends to have better hardware, it's been this way for almost as long as I can remember. I am afraid this post is going to end up being so long that the forum won;t let me post it so I'll save the rest for later.
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-Ron Swanson
"I shall be a good politician, even if it kills me. Or if it kills anyone else for that matter. "
-Mark Antony