How much of an Improvement will a better cpu make?

[Angry23]

(02-13-2012, 08:06 AM)Starscream Wrote: You'll regret it later when you try to play something else and it runs slow. You can thank certain people in this thread for steering you away from the 2500k at a later date.

Alrighty, how about this:

2500k vs Core i7 920 @ 4ghz?

It will take longer to acquire the 2500k.

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Edit, wheres the edit button?

All else, if I get a 2500k I guess I could try dolphin on both the 920 and 2500k.....

[NaturalViolence]

The 2500K will be a bit faster (after overclocking of course). The i7 920 is already extremely good for dolphin though, at 4.0GHz it will outperform a pentium G850 (although not by much).

[HawaiianPunch]

(02-13-2012, 10:03 AM)chos Wrote: OK Intel fanboy.. Many games do run on AMD processors for your info and they are a lot cheaper.. Not everyone can afford Intel processors so I think it is worth the effort if the right processor is chosen. I have an AMD phenom unlocked quad running @3.6ghz OC let's see you get an Intel processor at the same performance point for $100 bucks. BTW my proc scores a modest 7.4 on the WEI so with the right GFX card I will be set for a while to come. Have a good day sir.

And how does Hyrule Field run, at the end of TP? SMG2, in World 4?
Nowhere close to the 2500K. WEI scores mean nothing.
Learn how processors run in Dolphin, not just Windows, before posting something like that.

[Starscream]

(02-13-2012, 10:03 AM)chos Wrote: OK Intel fanboy..

I guess you didn't bother to look at my signature PC specs? I'm actually an AMD fan, unfortunately their processors aren't as good as Intel's right now. The difference between you and me is that you're in denial and I'm looking at the facts. You could always call AMD and complain if it makes you feel better.

(02-13-2012, 10:03 AM)chos Wrote: Many games do run on AMD processors for your info and they are a lot cheaper..

We've heard it all before. You love your AMD and are willing to play games with it because you cannot afford anything else, it's okay. That doesn't mean that the processor is actually good for all your emulation needs, though.

(02-13-2012, 10:03 AM)chos Wrote: BTW my proc scores a modest 7.4 on the WEI

My A6-3400 scores 7.3 at 2.6GHz while your Phenom needs an extra 1GHz to do that, what's you're point? My laptop is not enough for loads of games to play at full speed and neither is your Phenom. That's why Intel CPU's are suggested, because they are better.

[werewolfyman]

I gotta say...

You be's bold.

[NaturalViolence]

Quote:OK Intel fanboy..

A fanboy is someone who defends a particular BRAND in an irrational way and refuses to acknowledge any constructive criticism against that brand. They are the kind of person that sees things as this brand vs. that brand, one must be better. A normal person realizes that brands are essentially companies marketing a lot of products, and it is these products that should be judged, not the brand. It is irrational to assume that all products from any particular company are automatically good just because that company has had good products in the past.

What SS did was recommend a particular product, the i5 2500K. He said nothing about intel vs. amd. You just decided to turn it into that with your post.

Please do not call someone a fanboy and then try to defend yourself by saying x brand is better than y brand. That makes you look like a hypocrite. The fact that you do not see the hypocrisy in what you just did is amazing to me.

Quote:Many games do run on AMD processors

It's not a question of whether they run, it's a question of how well they perform.

Quote:for your info and they are a lot cheaper.

No they aren't. That logic makes no sense. Both intel and amd sell cpus that are $30-250, intel also has some models that are higher than that. For example for $125 you could buy a core i3 2100 from intel or a phenom II X4 960T from AMD.

Quote:Not everyone can afford Intel processors so I think it is worth the effort if the right processor is chosen.

If you can afford an intel processor you can afford an amd processor. Both companies offer cpus as low as $35.

Quote:I have an AMD phenom unlocked quad running @3.6ghz OC let's see you get an Intel processor at the same performance point for $100 bucks.

That's easy. Virtually every pentium processor (sandy bridge) outperforms any phenom II in dolphin and they cost $65-100 depending on the model.

Quote:That's why Intel CPU's are suggested, because they are better for dolphin.

Always add that if you want to avoid brand wars erupting in the forums. They aren't necessarily better cpus, just better for dolphin.

[NaturalViolence]

Quote:I never got that far on TP yet and I havent tried SMG2 yet, but SMG runs at full speed with my proc as well.

Please send us a screenshot of the observatory in SMG running fullspeed on your rig. I am skeptical of this claim.

Quote:LOL another Intel fanboy.

Stop calling people that. Did my explanation of what a fanboy is not sink in?
Here it is again in case it didn't sink in:

Quote:A fanboy is someone who defends a particular BRAND in an irrational way and refuses to acknowledge any constructive criticism against that brand. They are the kind of person that sees things as this brand vs. that brand, one must be better. A normal person realizes that brands are essentially companies marketing a lot of products, and it is these products that should be judged, not the brand. It is irrational to assume that all products from any particular company are automatically good just because that company has had good products in the past.

Quote:LOL I was arguing with an ADMIN? First day on the boards and I am already causing trouble with the vets. Anyway my point is; other processors are worth the time and effort, If you pick the right setup.

You called him a fanboy, continued to act rudely towards him, wrote a post spouting nonsense and irrelevant data, then came to a conclusion based on no real evidence. What did you think was going to happen? A tea party?

And you're still insulting people. I have absolutely no tolerance for this kind of irrational behavior, this is why I "get my panties in a knot" as you put it.

Quote:And do I have to say again, I never paid $230 for my processor.

Neither did any of us. Or most people with intel cpus. Once again (since apparently it didn't sink in the first two times): "intel and amd BOTH make cpus from $35-250". Please get that into your head.

Quote:You may have a better machine than me, but that doesn't mean you know more about CPUS.

You're right, that's not why he knows more about cpus than you. It's his experience with these forums that have better informed him about the situation. He is far more qualified to judge how well a particular processor will perform with dolphin than someone who is new to the forums.

Please do not recommend phenom II cpus to people. There are better alternatives for dolphin at similar prices.

Quote:Starscream(cool name btw) wrote "everything else is waste of time and effort" so I felt I had to chime in. No need to get your panties in a knot.

I agree that was a harsh choice of words on his part. He does that sometimes. You still didn't have to call him a fanboy and act rudely though. Everything he said was technically correct.

[Motawa]

Hey guys. im thinking about buying a i3 2100.
Right now i have a intel core duo (yap the first gen) e5300@3,6ghz, 4gb ddr2 and hd 6970. Most of the games run OK i can play with 4x resolution(thanks to my vga) but the core duo is the bottleneck(always 90-100%)

Will the i3 do the job? or do i have to get a i5?

[Havikk]

(02-13-2012, 08:39 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: Translation: "If you don't upgrade to the absolute best hardware available then there is no point in upgrading at all. You'll regret the better performance you could have had in some games with hardware you can't afford. Even if the affordable upgrade more than doubles your performance over your current hardware you'll still regret it."

I run a phenom 2 x2 Oc'ed to 3.5 run 100% everywhere but skyloft (28 fps there so 90% speed)

[naish]

(02-13-2012, 04:31 PM)Motawa Wrote: Hey guys. im thinking about buying a i3 2100.
Right now i have a intel core duo (yap the first gen) e5300@3,6ghz, 4gb ddr2 and hd 6970. Most of the games run OK i can play with 4x resolution(thanks to my vga) but the core duo is the bottleneck(always 90-100%)

Will the i3 do the job? or do i have to get a i5?

no, just a small improvement because you can't over clock the i3.

i suggest you to get an i5-2500k (the K is for OC), so you can bring it easily over 4ghz.

But i must say that you have still a nice cpu, maybe you can wait the new ivy bridge, it will be out in around 2 months.