How do dolphin devs feel about the new unveiled Asus ROG(republic of gaming) phone

[Haze89]

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[MayImilae]

It's a snapdragon 845 that may throttle less when the fan is attached. Not magic, but it's interesting!

[mstreurman]

(06-05-2018, 08:51 PM)Haze89 Wrote: Header

Buy it, test it, come back with your results here. Probably gonna be just as bad as any other Snapdragon 845 phone. (which means: Broken drivers and too slow to run any game without changing any settings that will break your game)

[JosJuice]

(06-06-2018, 12:03 AM)mstreurman Wrote: too slow to run any game without changing any settings that will break your game

Not too slow to run *any* game. There are some games out there that do run well enough, but far from all.

[Grey1213]

You won't have to worry about throttling if you have the fan attached probably.

But overall nothing special and it won't have better drivers or anything, it's still just the same old SD845 just slightly overclocked. It'll probably be overpriced too. It'll still be the best gaming phone until next year, if only by a small margin.

[Helios]

I mean, if the phone ships with the GL (ES) extensions we need and doesn't throttle, it should be pretty dang sweet. A 845 that doesn't throttle would be pretty fast.

That said, given android's reputation, I wouldn't go pre-ordering this monstrosity, but I think it has potential.

[JonnyH]

(06-06-2018, 01:30 AM)Helios Wrote: I mean, if the phone ships with the GL (ES) extensions we need and doesn't throttle, it should be pretty dang sweet. A 845 that doesn't throttle would be pretty fast.

That said, given android's reputation, I wouldn't go pre-ordering this monstrosity, but I think it has potential.

To be honest, since SD835 throttling hasn't been a massive issue (I assume the 845 won't suddenly be a heat hog?) - dolphin doesn't actually get great utilisation of the hardware already (only 1 cpu core, often waiting on stuff instead of keeping both the cpu and gpu busy) - and as the turbo equivalent isn't as well developed as desktop (possibly by design, as power use may be more important than heat) we often don't get anywhere near peak "benchmark-level" heat output anyway.

It's more fighting with inefficiencies on the GPU driver and JIT, and things over-tuned for power saving instead of gaming (like using the interactive cpu governor) that hit the latest snapdragons. As far as I can see, even the fanciest, most expensive "gaming" phone will likely only help with the latter, if at all.

[Helios]

I do believe adreno ships with a lot of the GL ES extensions we need to Not Suck?

[Nintonito]

According to Anandtech the 845 is an extension of the existing 835 in terms of heat production. Power consumption is higher at peak but not at 835 perf. But considering it has a damn fan attachment it probably eclipses 835 phone’s anyways. Based on some early previews the ROG UI it looks derived from ZenUI which is the bigger issue. Very unlikely that ASUS has changed or enabled more performance oriented software tweaks as that would simply be an additional software expense that would basically only benefit emulators (which matters to people here but to ASUS’s main audience it won’t matter).

TLR I wouldn’t trust ASUS with getting the software right.

[Guilherme]

If the phone come with nice software improvements, its features can be ported to other phones through custom kernels, which is a good thing.