Haswell i7-4770k performance previewed on Tom's Hardware

[lamedude]

It one less feature they have to make sure works ie load up test TSX program, does it work, does it work at 5GHZ to avoid Crysis4 TSX edition CTD while CoD 12 works complaints down the road. They already got their hands full testing the bloated x86 instruction set.

[NaturalViolence]

During cpu production testing that makes sense. I had to read that sentence a few times to figure out what you were saying. I get the feeling lately that you're a really smart guy that could contribute a lot to the discussions on this forum but your grammar is really hard for me (and probably others) to understand. Which is why you get ignored or attacked by me a lot (due to misunderstandings).

[AnyOldName3]

There are people here who take a lot more effort to comprehend. At least all of the sentence is in one language.

[carroacelera]

Without amd the way, the intel does what he wants ...

[NaturalViolence]

AMD isn't really offering much in the way of competition right now anyways. Intel is mainly competing with themselves at this point.

[carroacelera]

(03-23-2013, 07:25 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: AMD isn't really offering much in the way of competition right now anyways. Intel is mainly competing with themselves at this point.

I saw somewhere that AMD will increase the IPC in its next generation of processors.

This would have a significant gain in performance?

[NaturalViolence]

They announced a long time ago that each new generation of cpus would boost single threaded performance by 10-15%. However we don't know if that will hold true. And if it does hold true that won't be enough to catch up to Intel anytime soon unless Intel starts falling behind. Intels single threaded performance is increasing at the same rate so unless it drops they will stay ahead of AMD in this area for the foreseeable future.

[AnyOldName3]

Someone seriously needs to give us a few billion dollars to start making x86_64-compatible CPUs, or we may end up in a pickle a few years down the line.

[NaturalViolence]

1. It would take a lot more than a few billion dollars to rival Intel.
2. You can't play catch up if you're starting from nothing. Your only hope would be to acquire companies like AMD and engineers that have previously worked on x86 architectures. Otherwise you're spending money and time trying to figure out things that the competition has already figured out while the competition moves onto to bigger and better things in the meantime.
3. Even with an unlimited supply of money and talent you still wouldn't be able to acquire the necessary x86 extension licenses.

Basically there is nothing that can be done at this point to bring down Intel unless the market moves to a new ISA.

[AnyOldName3]

You didn't have to pay IBM anything to make an IBM PC compatible computer, so surely we wouldn't need all the licenses if we called it x86_64 compatible.

Either way, with enough money, surely AMD could be bought and fixed. For example, if we had enough money, we could subsidise AMD CPUs, and sell them at a loss for about 10 years. By that time, we could potentially have acquired enough good engineers to rival Intel for the high end chips.